heated percents i5 2400
All kind time of day. In General, the percent I have more than five years as well as my computer. Upgraded the video card to a gtx 960 and a power supply unit (thermal paste change almost 2 years ago) also the RAM. The problem is the following - in any strong game after a few minutes of game gives a blue screen, although the fps may be high ( up to 50 fps or more). Sinned on the RAM (8GB) because the error is always different, but just noticed that in Skyrim the updated percent is heated no more than 65 degrees max, and no blue screens was never, even for a few hours stay in the game. Once include any powerful new game (Deus, mirrors edge,homefront, etc.) in 10-20 minutes of game always gets a blue screen and reboot. Notice that the percent is heated in such games up to 75 degrees. So the question is - is it the CPU or is the normal temperature in the load in games? if not, how to lower this temperature to normal?Nikolai Rakkolainen
I agree with you, in fact if there is such a hobby as to play modern games, it is better to buy a new computer, well built, in fact more than 5 years it is time for a gaming PC.
aleksanpetelin
OK. Then I'm sorry. You're older than me by about seven years. Why mention the word fine?
After this proposal. if you pull the mouse will help you think? what gives the pull-out mouse?
Dude what is pinned, and you believed it)))) so I decided that this could lead either down or skalolazanie being stupid (no offense)
To the account service centers, where supposedly you need to leave the computer for a few days. I'll tell you what.
Yes, there are, but that particular monkey of the office, or even worse, where the alleged true professionals can something without telling you to replace inside your computer at your components. In the neck to drive these, or even give up on such services. In specialized, time-tested normal service centers fix the maximum can occur during the day. Actually, as I tell people, if you have time, you can undergo yourself and see what you are doing with your computer. That's why I wrote that you came to us. Diagnostics free of charge. Moreover, you are also a user of this website, which for me is nice.
On account of OCCT. Safely use this prog. THERE IS NOTHING SHE WILL NOT BURN. Here, for example, you screen should look like the first paragraph
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I wrote to you that it is better not to test it the laptop or the computer. Yes, even if she'll be out to test some very old laptop, just it zavisna, or go into a reboot. Those who made this app are not an idiot it firing equipment))))
Why can't take, such as temporarily different motherboard or hard disk (if speech about it went) from a friend and test once and for all what your problem is? Temporarily or buy? What I mean by temporarily? I will write now. Earlier I've wrote to the guy at the expense of some. To buy, and then to return to the store.
Here: (in your case, the motherboard, percents or hard)
Go shorter in the CSN or in some sort of store, buy the GTX 1080 for example, begin to test QUALITATIVELY (preferably all do during the day!!!!!!) IF vidyahu percent not disclose the take vidyahu, go back to the store, pretend to be lamb - stupid Orc, I say any reason, (don't laugh, I'm not joking, all tested on personal experience) that valaska did not fit (the power supply is weak, the body is not got in sly not work with another manufacturer. I personally say that the Palit GTX 570 does not work with the Evga GTX 570 and it was really)
That many do not write here describe your event in detail:
Went five years ago in the CSN.
Bought a second EVGA GTX 570 bidascu
Asked if she won't come to my system if I can bring back and collect the money?
Said if for some reason it will not work you can within three days to come and get their money back.
On the weekend I bought bidashko in the morning, came home, inserted it into the computer, saw that SLI does not plow and in a few hours was again in the shop.
With all the documents I sent to the service center (it was necessary for me to go there, blunted) I said the real reason. The clip gave her checked for serviceability, looked at the sticker, wrote documents, and with them I went to store where I got bidascu. The money was returned to me without question. And yet, if for example she would was not working, the money is not immediately given, but only within 45 days and if the marriage wasn't my fault. In the usual peck-stores none of that crap, the clip can be checked within a few hours and make a conclusion instead of waiting sucks cloud time.
Here is his case. Your problem is associated with the other components. So you will solve your problem instantly. And less time consuming. I still have and friends did several times. Rolls, grain business. Bought a few components. Was replaced with a new one, problem solved, went back to the store, handed them the money returned and satisfied. In General, for the future, that's what I'll tell you. When you take a new computer, be sure to buy the most expensive, but the quality and modern components to check the main computer. This is the type of your test computer, you never know if there is any more problem.
Stiff Of Macivor
about me about what the mouse said, if you were my rovestnik, you'd understand what I stebanulsya, and you're in my age I think any person down or shkololo, it will soon pass and you will be more loyal and understanding to people)) also no offense)
I buy anything I will not, the thing is, we can take back and may not take such cases were and throw 20 thousand on a wind - one more tip))
I computer hardware and do not put computers do not gather, not good at this, so to collect everything from scratch, to replace the item, the thermal grease applied to the percent can but not more, and while the radiator with the CPU removed, almost white, and there is one anchorage presolo and in no way wanted to act, it plastmassovaja and this little attachment broke, though I was doing more than gently ( mine in fact), so now my cooler on percents is based on three mounts, but keeps well. Temperature good. In the future to buy a new PC, this is old, and I took it already in the collection, that is, the collectors have saved money on cooling, case and motherboard. And in the moment after change thermal paste and clean the radiator and cooler of percents can make one hundred percent conclusion - specifically percent as iron here not and, because several times viscacia in the game a blue screen and the temperature was not over 65 degrees. That is what he was warming up to 74 and I thought that was the reason - has eliminated, my reason probably still in the hard drive - just it is divided into C and D, that is, it is Windows. apparently when the system accesses the sick or flawed sectors and the blue screen occurs, here is my disk
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and yet, when I discovered that my disc isn't quite right (although if you don't play games and don't copy the files from it to 30 GB) and never will understand the use of the computer with a disk something not so, all works well.
So I turned to the forum Victoria, there is an administrator looking at these two images said that my CD is not corrected in Victoria and at no more the program, so it's best to use this as a media (movies, pictures, etc.) , and replaced to purchase a new disk. To buy a new drive, perhaps about 3500 rubles, but there are times that three thousand is not redundant... that's about it. ( but buy something anyway, but generally I'm for a new PC I assembled, but it is about 70 thousand)
I have only one question does not rest - why blue screen crashes only in powerful modern games.. with the same temperature sensors of the fps and workload of the processor and video card. For example, even if modern require more VRAM or operatives, then it's not a reason for blue screen? usually powerful games simply give a small fps, but when fps 55 or 60 it means that they are going well, then the glands cope with them?! It seems everything points to your hard drive, but on the other hand then why the drive to spit on the old one is not powerful games... unclear!
In General, for the future, that's what I'll tell you. When you take a new computer, be sure to buy the most expensive, but the quality and modern components to check the main computer. This is the type of your test computer, you never know if there is any more problem.
honestly this Board do not understand... that is when I buy a new PC (60-80 thousand rubles) I have another appendage for him to buy any more components? sorry did not understand, what for such expensive components? that is to buy more graphics cards and processors? it's like when you buy a new car then buy a couple of inexpensive cars, so they parts to remove if that.. ))) no x... EC)) not a frail Board... I'm happy for you that you enjoy life and still have enough for a few computers, I have no extra funds... I'm not going to write about what a lot of other expenses other than your computer, you probably and without me know it all, but if I had huge extra money that makes sense to me tinkering with the blue screen, I immediately went out and bought a new computer and forgot (no offense)
and about replacing a part, is to try one motherboard, then the other none, or PERC, is a good thing, surely more correct but where did they take it? who from your company will have to remove the motherboard?!))) (boy you're so simple as a penny- spare parts, buy, buy graphics card, then hand over, VSTi different motherboard, well, you work in service you have components to Asses me where to get them??)
Stiff of Macivor thank you for the offer to come to your service, but I would have said that we live in different cities and it is impossible, even in different parts of our great country, you twice wrote about this, I honestly thought that you're not yourself ( no offense) , how can you not understand that you in one city , I in another))) well , I was just zametil)))
Thank you for the interesting story, I can read them forever, but I used th deal would dumps.. can someone throw, read literate knowledge.. if I knew myself, didn't write here.. there are usually people write to the Council and gave a solution to his problem.
another version is by chance that this may not be the problem? what is usb ... I remember I had the case on the old comp does not turn on , it turned out only due to the fact that there was a problem in usb entrance how the. it is buggy and not allowed to turn on the system.
in short here's the screenshots
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this usb input has been inserted, the camcorder, I got it out and the problem has disappeared several times on the game that gives out a blue screen for a couple of hours were just crashes but no blue... I was happy , I thought cured the problem , and it was in usb, but no. not in it , yet I once flew a blue screen. This is what the magic, well, all are seen due to disc... although I'm not sure
aleksanpetelin
Dude,you're mother's checked?At least pull it out and check for the presence of swollen conder or signs of overheating.If you want hard to check,click properties,and check service,we can. th will find and fix it.
EvgenyDMT
about hard I wrote, please see above... I honestly don't even know how to look these swollen conder.. I removed the heatsink from the CPU, cleaned it and applied thermal compound or anything on the motherboard have not noticed, and that it is completely removed - you need to remove all the parts, that is, to re-assemble the computer, sorry not very good at this.
Vinni-Pukh
did test Prime95-bltnd . It took 7 minutes and the test ended in error. After 15 minutes, did this test a second time - after 7-8 minutes knocked the blue screen, what does it mean?
aleksanpetelin
Hmm, experts then divorced a dime a dozen.
The most important thing you did not say 72 degrees is the temperature at the core or the cover? Download AIDA 64. Then you go to the Computer - sensor and watch the temp in front of the nuclei and CPU (comes after the motherboard) If temp of the cores does not exceed 85,it is the rules, well, more precisely within the allowable range to cover just 70 degrees.
Later in this same AIDA can be loaded separately or PERC video: first put jackdaws on the stress cpu + fpu stress - the test, then only the checkbox on the stress gpu - the test, you can still hdd her to protest, only to test it all individually to understand what exactly is the problem.
Further more you can download Furmark, Heanen Ungine Valley, 3dmark (only tests the graphics card to the PERC not shipped). In General, everything is fine Google and downloaded.
About the HDD, what you said that it only in the files etc - so it is not yet known, maybe you have a soft-bhed, to drive remap through Victoria may also help. And by the way, in the event log after blue screen what error is popping up and complains that system?
And why does everyone forget about the power supply? Maybe he doesn't keep the system. Download hwmonitor, the program is not difficult to understand, and then run a heavy game, give a full load for a few minutes, curl up and look in the column min voltage on all lines, well, throw here a screen.
smaizy
dude thank you, I understand that reading everything for a long time, but a lot of what you said I wrote. About hard, I was doing the smart in Victoria on the Victoria, and I answered that it is impossible to cure even Victoria. Maybe it's in drive. On the temperature of the PERC - I changed thermal paste and cleaned the heatsink and cooler on the processor, cool and even powerful, does not exceed now and 66 degrees. 3 dmark did well, and that it was normal given the result and all. As there is to understand that if something is not normal with none - I do not understand.and Furmark did, everything is fine, and as normal I don't know. complains that the system blue screens when I also wrote about it once the screen will make from BlueScreenView
About power supply it is good advice - I will look that there.
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smaizy
here is the hwmonitor screenshots in-game. Although the game of krasnolesy error direkts and what is your graphics card driver. Firewood cost from a new vidyuhi, I don't know what she wants and her temperature normal.
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what kind of people would write and go ,if you come to this topic purely so.. thank you is not necessary, if you see that the person responds to you immediately may not go and help him..?
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drove about 15 minutes in Hades, nothing happened, although I do not know what is going to happen.. all smooth
aleksanpetelin
Here I am, I can not sit here around the clock. Generally from everything seen say that voltage is not quite normal, the sensors are lying or something like that XS, but I would advise to check it on another PSU, if everything will be OK, that there is probably really percents or mother, because the percent is also the voltage shows some sort of inadequate.
smaizy
no way to check on another PSU, so it is what it is. So with my computer? BP is to blame or what? I don't see anything in the graphs that there is not and where?
(guys , please, don't ask me to check out the other PSU, motherboard and other hardware.. I'm just a layman, I have no service on repair of computers, where will I get all these parts? )
Pliny dudes, has been written so that only the page space can be turned down, so it's long..... but no good advice (forgive me, but there is no power), who writes that the percents are guilty, who says that the mother, who is RAM, who is BP, Yes, I know that the blame for something that is in the computer, some thing to blame Yes, BUT WHAT ?? THAT'S THE QUESTION!!! and the most interesting that I've done everything that you asked me, so what? did screens, tests, all that is possible, but the findings where? what is the diagnosis? forgive me, but honestly got, and the thing is no one reads what I write, looks nothing write everything several times what I wrote, well, if you don't want to do it to help, not write, no need for@bis writing, if you know the tops and decided to show off knowledge, it is not worth asking. Asked to make прайм95 test I did , so what?
asked me to do Wмонитор turning during the game, I did, but this I can do, the fact of the ficus. what you need to understand what do these tests show, I don't know, but it is the one who asks to do these tests probably need to understand? but apparently not, so come clean - do it do it and went and test analysis and diagnosis... and why is it necessary, advised to do the test and well... and why sobsno tests that are done?! that was the result to make a conclusion and diagnose, but just to do hours of tests it is nonsense!
where are the moderators, admins, why are threads and forums about the hardware, if what no one knows??! I did all the tests, so nobody knows what they mean?! people, please help!!!
Guys, if anyone sees, get a blue screen you games, BSOD in games and even clarify a little bit - in modern games, because no matter what the fps (it is mainly not less than 40, but blue screen only in modern games), of course the issue is not called, because you can not play, it is still not working cigarette lighter in the car - Yes figs with it , you can wear a lighter or quitting, something like this... but I would like to understand. Why only new games?what just a few minutes, run for example the same crisis 3 on ultra, there may be about 30-40 fps in the game, chased chased, no blue screens, only new games. Maybe my motherboard is outdated or I just don't know what to do - hard drive bought new, replaced, put Windows and games on it. (C and D respectively). In the service wore, once opened, the computer - says this motherboard, then says it is RAM, then video card, in fact never figured it out, everything works like normal. Well, or the wizard is not very good. The idea is you need to take the other card and insert and it to try, but where do I take it - and nowhere gaming graphics card is not at hand. And why is the graphics card, maybe RAM... in General asked to respond to help. BlueScreenView shows the following. Someone can say that in my PC causes blue screen and why?
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