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stalker7162534 24.07.20 10:16 pm

Nazism and nationalism. Is there a difference?

Gauguin wrote:
You say nationalism, if it's something bad.
What is the difference between Nazism and nationalism?

Gauguin wrote:
Actually huge.
Nazism - the ideology according to which a particular nation is more advanced in relation to others and it pursues the establishment of a racial hierarchy or even the destruction of other people on racial grounds.
Nationalism - the pursuit of the interests of a particular nation, his nation.
The first may be part of the second of course, but to confuse these concepts is not necessary.
About nationalism which is nonsense.

Gauguin wrote:
Read the definition at least in Wikipedia, then to distinguish between concepts and do not talk such nonsense.
You never know where that is written. Here tell us how particular people in our country, for example Russian will pursue the interests of Russian? Will it differ from patriotism, work for the good of the country? Will he pursue the interests of the Tatars, Chukchi, Chuvash, or its activity will be against the interests of other nationalities in the country?
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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Wing42
only fools believe that they are irrevocably right (but can't explain why).

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RussianQuaker 24.07.20

stalker7162534 wrote:
Only the Nazis and dispute.
Proof? And the Holocaust in particular.

stalker7162534 wrote:
the struggle against the Nazis is first and foremost a protection of their nation.
It is not clear that you're rooting for the employment of nationals. Can not be seen.

stalker7162534 wrote:
it will be bad for not only foreigners, will hurt.
Narrow-minded rednecks can not understand it and therefore approve of the massacres of foreigners.
For me it is narrow-minded redneck approves unemployment compatriots. IQ level is measured (C)
It is unclear how you have such a ..um.. a strange line of reasoning.

Reverrius wrote:
Russia needs the assimilation of these regions and smart, smooth denationalization of their republics.
In any case, if the title of the nation will be well, and others will be fine. Those who are not complimentary to the Russian people, of course do not take into account.

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

When csanád County szegedi was known for his extremist views and anti-Semitic statements. Being big in the party "Jobbik", he even participated in the creation of a "Hungarian guard", a militarized wing of the party, which is desperately trying to look like Hitler's SS. But in 2012, Szeged experienced, how sophisticated can be the sense of humor of fate.
Digging into the history of his family, Magyarcsanád found out that his great-grandmother in the maternal line was Jewish, and even miraculously survived Auschwitz. Grandma's life were on hand band-AIDS to hide the camp tattoo and never hinted about his origin. Obviously, she was afraid that guys like her great-grandson, did not disappear even after the Second world war and only waiting for the pretext for the pogroms. As we have seen, Jewish grandmother was damn right.
Shock, experienced that day a young anti-Semite in the Prime of life (at the time he was 30 years old), confident in their belonging to the highest Hungarian race and expressed sharply against Roma and Jews it was like an earthquake.
I couldn't believe it. I thought it was the worst thing that could happen to me — he admitted in an interview with British newspaper the Telegraph. — I further and further went on racism, read the relevant books to become a true racist-a student.

In the four years since Szeged has discovered that he can not by definition be anti-Semitic, his life changed radically. He became an Orthodox Jew, took the name "David", visited Auschwitz, were circumcised and began to eat only kosher food. Now he's going with the family to immigrate to Israel for permanent residence.

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Wing42 24.07.20

stalker7162534
What can I say? It's a shitty anti-Semite sucks Jew, a vile hypocrite and dishonest people with vfsname beliefs (valanya - that is to say the wafer - beliefs that are easy to shake and change to any other, including the opposite).
More about this low person should not mention

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RussianQuaker 24.07.20

stalker7162534
Here is what happens with the absence of a clear national identity. One Jew of many of his relatives entered into a stupor.

stalker7162534 wrote:
Obviously, she was afraid that guys like her great-grandson, did not disappear even after the Second world war and only waiting for the pretext for the pogroms. As we have seen, Jewish grandmother was damn right.
And where they go when it will not go away.
*subscales smile from ear to ear*

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Reverrius 24.07.20

stalker7162534 wrote:
And my opinion is that Russia long ago should abandon the Imperial ambitions that Russia does not want Chechnya within the Russian Federation. How much can you feed them?
The issue of subsidies to Chechnya is an important issue. But on the other hand, the neighborhood independent North Caucasian Emirate in the contemporary Islamic reality - also not a good prospect for Russia and other neighbors.

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RussianQuaker 24.07.20

Reverrius
Well, as both could merge, I zealously argued that the number of imigrasi should not change-effective manner, ultimately said that the labour class and no pros they don't even carry. In General afy there are some plausible arguments for their positions?

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Reverrius 24.07.20

RussianQuaker
That you yourself came up with something already. I said that the attitude of one person to another should not be based on racial/national aspects. About migrant workers - it is you started the topic to change.

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Gauguin 24.07.20

RussianQuaker
RussianQuaker wrote:
Cattle and made it the freedom - you can do whatever you want to Express yourself as you like, but not serious.
Well... here everything is according to plan. Give the idiots what they call svobodoi, even allowing them to be called persons. And do observe how they turn back into monkeys after another attempt to emphasize her personality. Liberalism, he is, Yes.
stalker7162534
If you don't know the General concept and decided to play the fool - it's not my problem. Will be back when I get out of manyika and ready for a serious dialogue.

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Scull Crasher 24.07.20

Actually, it's simple. The nationalists are defending equal rights and opportunities for the nation compared to other Nations, and the Nazis demand exclusive rights and opportunities for their nation at the expense of the rights and opportunities of other Nations.

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Reverrius
If the neighborhood does not like, then to live together which is better?
Gauguin
Well, you merged, could not explain what the Western European values" and why they just Western European. Level dogs understand everything they say but can not say. Bark on!

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Scull Crasher
Equal rights for people, for all people, not to defend the nationalists, but normal people.

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Scull Crasher 24.07.20

Equal rights for people to defend humanists (from the Latin. humanitas — "humanity"), and for the peoples - nationalists.

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Scull Crasher
One of the tasks of the state apparatus is that in international Affairs (e.g. trade between countries) his own country was in equal terms with other Nations.
Scull Crasher wrote:
The nationalists are defending equal rights and opportunities for the nation compared to other Nations
Is it in a normal civilized country is required to defend the rights of any nation?
For example, in Turkey, Kurdish rights are infringed, or at least so it seems to the Kurds. The Kurdish guerrillas. Can they be called nationalists or correct to call them fighters for independence?

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Reverrius 24.07.20

stalker7162534 wrote:
If the neighborhood does not like, then to live together which is better?
Living together there is at least some element of control and influence. And if you become neighbors, dick knows what a dense breeding ground is formed, and not the fact that they will quietly stay without trips to the neighbors. I agree that substantial subsidies there is a question that you need to reconsider. But the rest is all a very complex issue, which is not so easy to solve (branch or Department).

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Yczh-Kazym 24.07.20

stalker7162534 wrote:
Can they be called nationalists or correct to call them fighters for independence?
Kurdish nationalists, who are fighting for their independence. This is logical, since the Turkish authorities have long been trying to turkify" all non-Turkish ethnic groups of the state.

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Scull Crasher 24.07.20

stalker7162534
Defending the rights of their country, the government, thus, defends the rights of their own people (or the people that elected this government), in fact being the same nationalists. Well, turning into Nazis in those cases where the law provides its own country due to the infringement/denial of the rights of another country, and therefore other people.
The Kurds are nationalists, which, for example, was Russian, when expelled the poles from Moscow in the early 17th century.

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Scull Crasher wrote:
Defending the rights of their country, the government, thus, defends the rights of their own people (or the people that elected this government), in fact being the same nationalists.
I think what you write? How can a multinational state government to be nationalists? It is only Hitler's Nazi government was. Can be considered nationalists, fascists, if you like.

Scull Crasher wrote:
these are the same nationalists, which, for example, was Russian, when expelled the poles from Moscow
Nonsense. Do not mix different. And Soviet partisans in the rear of the Nazis can be called nationalists, although there were people of different nationalities.

With regard to the time of Troubles and the poles in the Kremlin -
Spoilerbattle of Moscow in 1612 — episode time of Troubles, during which the Polish-Lithuanian army great Hetman of Lithuania Chodkiewicz tried unsuccessfully to release the Kremlin, which was locked in the Polish-Lithuanian garrison. .... The total number of troops of Hetman Chodkiewicz was about 12 thousand people. The basis was about 8 000 Cossacks. Wikipedia, the battle of Moscow (1612)
Did you know that Along with the poles besieged in the Kremlin were members of the Council of seven, as well as the future Tsar Mikhail Romanov with his mother.

Did you know that In the second militia (Minin and Pozharsky) all militia have received good content: serving people first article was required to pay a salary — 50 rubles per year, the second article — 45 roubles, the third — 40 rubles, less than 30 rubles per year salary was not. The existence of militias permanent cash allowances drawn in the militia of new service people from all the surrounding areas.
(Generally unprecedented ray, not poorly influenced the rise Patriotic movement, the source of funding was Novgorod (Nizhny Novgorod) merchant oligarchy.
Did you know that during the battle of Prince Pozharsky with the troops of Hetman Chodkiewicz, the cellarer of the Trinity-Sergiev monastery, Abraham Palitsyn, who came with the militia in Moscow, went to the camp of the Cossacks, promised to pay the salary from the monastery's Treasury, and only after that, the Cossacks came to the aid of the militia. That is, the militia was a militia in name only, but de facto it was not. Quite a normal these mercenaries.
The Conclusion Is So. Bottom line is the fact that not a single pole was found. No, they certainly were there, because the Commonwealth was a Federal state. But among all figures, who played for team Western, a Slavic state, are a continuous band as it is now customary to say the beach and protobalanus (Lithuanians). Yes, it's just it is visible by name.. http://zadel.livejournal.com/44777.html

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stalker7162534 24.07.20

Reverrius wrote:
no attacks to the neighbors.
The border must be protected.

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RussianQuaker 24.07.20

Reverrius wrote:
I said that the attitude of one person to another should not be based on racial/national aspects. About migrant workers - it is you started the topic to change.
When it lives on its territory and there is not harming the relationship, and not built particularly.

stalker7162534 wrote:
Equal rights for people, for all people, not to defend the nationalists, but normal people.
Scull Crasher wrote:
Equal rights for people to defend humanists (from the Latin. humanitas — "humanity"), and for the peoples - nationalists.
People in General are not equal