Nazism and nationalism. Is there a difference?
Gauguin wrote:You say nationalism, if it's something bad.
What is the difference between Nazism and nationalism?
Gauguin wrote:
Actually huge.
Nazism - the ideology according to which a particular nation is more advanced in relation to others and it pursues the establishment of a racial hierarchy or even the destruction of other people on racial grounds.
Nationalism - the pursuit of the interests of a particular nation, his nation.
The first may be part of the second of course, but to confuse these concepts is not necessary.
About nationalism which is nonsense.
Gauguin wrote:
Read the definition at least in Wikipedia, then to distinguish between concepts and do not talk such nonsense.
You never know where that is written. Here tell us how particular people in our country, for example Russian will pursue the interests of Russian? Will it differ from patriotism, work for the good of the country? Will he pursue the interests of the Tatars, Chukchi, Chuvash, or its activity will be against the interests of other nationalities in the country?
RussianQuaker wrote:
No way.
Then you have all different relations to the representatives of the same ethnic group. It turns out that it is not in the ethnic group, and in particular people - the workers.
Reverrius
The case in ethnic groups when I see it on their site - analysis, the probability of its behavior / activity here and now, that I have said. In their territories I don't care what they do, if only we were not harmed.
I also draw conclusions about ethnic groups / ethnic groups, based on their achievements or lack thereof, regardless of, whether they climb somewhere else to live or stay at home.
And naturally, when among the arrivals of ethnic groups (i.e., enjoying the benefits of our civilization) are those who instead, nothing can give for obvious reasons, it is periodically not in their favor turns.
You never answered, what is the feasibility to drive the compatriots and instead send them to other people.
Also I am interested in trends, why sales suddenly are not under our countrymen.
And I wonder from you to see what a German anti-fascist in a given period of time.
RussianQuaker wrote:
I also draw conclusions about ethnic groups / ethnic groups, based on their achievements or lack thereof, regardless of, whether they climb somewhere else to live or stay at home.
It is possible to draw conclusions about the States, but not about ethnic groups. Otherwise how, for example, can be related to this ethnic group, the Koreans, based on their achievements or lack thereof?
RussianQuaker wrote:
You never answered, what is the feasibility to drive the compatriots and instead send them to other people.
This issue should be resolved in the plane of the migration policy of the state. What's not to like? Go into politics or vote for the party, in the nicest you migration policy.
RussianQuaker wrote:
And I wonder from you to see what a German anti-fascist in a given period of time.
I don't follow it, but pay attention to the political parties of the Bundestag, and find among them something similar to Hitler's Nazism.
Reverrius wrote:
It is possible to draw conclusions about the States, but not about ethnic groups. Otherwise how, for example, can be related to this ethnic group, the Koreans, based on their achievements or lack thereof?
Who do you think the government inhabits, abstract beings or something? About the Koreans know little. Can only say that here orusevshih Koreans in their General mass are friendly, also like is not parasitic, that's all I probably noticed.
Reverrius wrote:
This issue should be resolved in the plane of the migration policy of the state. What's not to like? Go into politics or vote for the party, in the nicest you migration policy.
This is such a intellectual way to shift all state of?
Reverrius wrote:
I don't follow it, but pay attention to the political parties of the Bundestag, and find among them something similar to Hitler's Nazism.
So think about why you look like will not find.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Who do you think the government inhabits, abstract beings or something?
The state is inhabited by different people.
RussianQuaker wrote:
This is such a intellectual way to shift all state of?
And whose jurisdiction then the issue and how to solve it?
RussianQuaker wrote:
So think about why you look like will not find.
Wait, are you saying that in Germany many lovers of the Third Reich, no?
Reverrius wrote:
The state is inhabited by different people.
Are people doing something. Or don't do.
Reverrius wrote:
And whose jurisdiction then the issue and how to solve it?
In the competence of the people who live here. And you have not seen it solve something? I'm not asking the question of how the government looks at policy. I'll ask the question, what can you say about this from the perspective of a citizen living here?
Reverrius wrote:
Wait, are you saying that in Germany many lovers of the Third Reich, no?
Exactly.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Are people doing something. Or don't do.
Thank you, cap! :)
RussianQuaker wrote:
In the competence of the people who live here.
This question can be solved only with the help of migration policy, all the rest - no integrated solutions will bring. And even more to beat a muzzle to the migrant workers this is not a solution, but only a manifestation of culture for those individuals who like make.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Exactly.
Well? Why, then, in the Bundestag no party similar to the ideology of national socialism? Turns out you were wrong.
Reverrius wrote:
This question can be solved only with the help of migration policy, all the rest - no integrated solutions will bring. And even more to beat a muzzle to the migrant workers this is not a solution, but only a manifestation of culture for those individuals who like make.
Che did not immediately asked the question: and if you think that it is only in the hands of state-VA, why are you so actively stand up for imigrasi?
Since about mordobitie mentioned, show me the relationship inability to use his fists and high spiritual development, haha.
Reverrius wrote:
Well? Why, then, in the Bundestag no party similar to the ideology of national socialism? Turns out you were wrong.
Because theirs is a state of carefully prevents this.
If we (and not only for us, and many white people) finds interest in the idea, in the country, which directly caught, the more. Here, even without Internet and TV that I've seen, purely logically.
Full Swedes, no words:
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RussianQuaker wrote:
and if you think that it is only in the hands of state-VA, why are you so actively stand up for imigrasi?
I am against xenophobia and against all leveled with the same brush.
RussianQuaker wrote:
the country, which directly caught, the more. Here, even without Internet and TV that I've seen, purely logically.
They survived and now are going the other way, not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Reverrius wrote:
I am against xenophobia and against all leveled with the same brush.
Well, you said that they have no work and they have here. You expressed your opinion, not equivocate. But have you thought about compatriots?
Reverrius wrote:
They survived and now are going the other way, not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Again a measure of the herd. They. Again, from your point of view. Inconsistent you some.
Explained to me about the relationship of vysokoduhovnym and inability to fend for themselves.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Well, you said that they have no work and they have here.
I just said that if you want migrant workers can understand. Accept - not the fact, but to understand - you can.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Again a measure of the herd. They. Again, from your point of view. Inconsistent you some.
I'm just trying to write in a way that was more clear to you. If I say that the views of German citizens - individual, then you latch onto this and say that they say so you can not say that there is no in the minds of national socialism. But started this thread first, it's you. And that's why I gave the example of the party in the Bundestag.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Explained to me about the relationship of vysokoduhovnym and inability to fend for themselves.
No connection.
Reverrius wrote:
I just said that if you want migrant workers can understand. Accept - not the fact, but to understand - you can.
If desired. And we do something can be beneficial?
Reverrius wrote:
I'm just trying to write in a way that was more clear to you. If I say that the views of German citizens - individual, then you latch onto this and say that they say so you can not say that there is no in the minds of national socialism. But started this thread first, it's you. And that's why I gave the example of the party in the Bundestag.
Well, let individual. And I of course latched by setting the re-issue that represents the modern German anti-fascist, to which you replied, that not followed. But at least in the absence of accurate information you have any thoughts about this? But to say that the party openly advocating something carefully struggling state of, well, it's not funny.
Reverrius wrote:
No connection.
You're talking about some sort of incivility. On what basis?
RussianQuaker wrote:
And we do something can be beneficial?
Anyone. Employer is beneficial for example. Cheap labor.
RussianQuaker wrote:
But at least in the absence of accurate information you have any thoughts about this? But to say that the party openly advocating something carefully struggling state of, well, it's not funny.
You yourself has written that the state fights carefully. Here's antiracism as a state ideology.
RussianQuaker wrote:
You're talking about some sort of incivility. On what basis?
It was about the fights with the workers.
Reverrius wrote:
Anyone. Employer is beneficial for example. Cheap labor.
And not the employer?
Reverrius wrote:
You yourself has written that the state fights carefully. Here's antiracism as a state ideology.
You stand up for individuality. What state ideology? Now I'm interested in typical AFA out of state officials among the working class.
Reverrius wrote:
It was about the fights with the workers.
Fights?.. hehe %)
Culture is you have the typical vegetables that can not defend their interests?
You never gave a clear answer on why some outlets (that is what tends slowly to power and Finance) do not belong to our compatriots?
Yesterday the Russian Teve, something about the Russian began to speak, then smoothly slid on the Russians and began to RUB about multiethnicity.
Crimeans direct shit drenched, after all the years of the movement in the Crimea for joining Russia, was based on Russian nationalism, it is for those who don't already know.
RussianQuaker wrote:
And not the employer?
Differently.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Culture is you have the typical vegetables that can not defend their interests?
No, they are just smarter and realize that fists the situation does not change.
RussianQuaker wrote:
You never gave a clear answer on why some outlets (that is what tends slowly to power and Finance) do not belong to our compatriots?
Each example of this point should be considered separately. Specific examples view and discuss.
bootmgr wrote:
Yesterday the Russian Teve, something about the Russian began to speak, then smoothly slid on the Russians and began to RUB about multiethnicity.
What should be in a country with 21 national Republic? Focus power only to the titular nation - a direct route to the separatist regions of national minorities.
Reverrius wrote:
Differently.
1) Those who were willing to work, which is now all occupied migrant workers
2) Those who have education
?
Reverrius wrote:
No, they are just smarter and realize that fists the situation does not change.
And who is talking about the absolute? If it is possible to improve the situation, we need to improve.
Reverrius wrote:
Each example of this point should be considered separately. Specific examples view and discuss.
What cafes or car parks or shopping markets we have in the city will not be affected by all these faces. Look at and discuss.
Reverrius wrote:
What should be in a country with 21 national Republic? Focus power only to the titular nation - a direct route to the separatist regions of national minorities.
80% Russian, 90% of white people, when some of these additional 10% under certain assumptions, can be considered Russian. So to focus 80-90% on the titular nation in order. Also the Russians must understand that there will be Russian, not them. In addition, the Russians have more and different: not all of them complimentary to the Russians.
It is significant that you never can give a specific example of whom the presence of migrants from the labor class is beneficial.