Nazism and nationalism. Is there a difference?

Reverrius
Reverrius wrote:
Only herd-minded people will make an opinion on the community as a whole.
You probably didn't even notice, as the merged himself in this sentence. Think.
Reverrius wrote:
No, but I don't have anything against them because of their national or racial differences.
Well. Especially if every nationality sitting in their homes.

Gauguin wrote:
You probably didn't even notice, as the merged himself in this sentence. Think.
No one poured. You probably just didn't get it of my proposal.

Gauguin wrote:
Especially if every nationality sitting in their homes.
Why would they do that?

Quaker who do you have a workplace away?

Reverrius wrote:
Only herd-minded people will make an opinion on the community as a whole.
Ha, I look fashionable right now to stick out skepticism, individualism, and nonconformity. Sounds nice. Many people want to cling, of course, to this subculture, just because they want to do smarter do not get this. You may have grown to the level that you know such clever words as stereotypical thinking, but that's your limit. There is such a simple concept as statistics, common statistics.

Look, there is some group of people, they have something common among them, call x. And 80-90% of these exovii individuals do something that we call y. It is logical to say that ogrecave action is in General the prerogative exovii individuals, isn't it? But no, not because there is necessarily pramudji and say that if 10-20% do not do this, so it's obviously not the prerogative x. Interestingly, and past the gopas our painted Neformal also is calm, che, 15-20% who wears kapci, tracksuits and smell the fumes from cheap booze are not rednecks, Gopnik, hands waving for no reason.

Enough even 10-20% (that is even not the majority, 80-90%) hrekovych x to draw conclusions from what x can be expected quite often.

Reverrius wrote:
This may depend on the socio-economic situation
What are the socio-economic conditions it's not that the whole country and even the whole ethnic groups to the asphalt kiss?

Reverrius wrote:
No, but I don't have anything against them because of their national or racial differences.
And they to you?

Reverrius wrote:
Sincere sympathy can only be from individual to individual.
In the Holocaust, then at least believe?

Reverrius wrote:
Possible.
I mean if someone takes away jobs, poison the Russian children drug, alters parks, squares, playgrounds, under Parking lots, cafes - they will want to prove something?

Reverrius wrote:
Why would they do that?
What's wrong, when every nation living on its territory? Beauty.

Cheburator the Founder wrote:
Quaker who do you have a workplace away?
I? O_o

RussianQuaker wrote:
Look, there is some group of people, they have something common among them, call x. And 80-90% of these exovii individuals do something that we call y. It is logical to say that ogrecave action is in General the prerogative exovii individuals, isn't it?
Well. Then tell me if according to statistics, 75% of Russians consider themselves Orthodox, it is logical to me if you already also considered Orthodox? And more importantly in the context of our discussion, whether I should consider this a statistical fact - a feature of Russian that is associated with the blood, by genetics?

RussianQuaker wrote:
And they to you?
How do I know? Each one of them should be analyzed individually.

RussianQuaker wrote:
In the Holocaust, then at least believe?
It was about compassion, about feelings, not about what I believe.

RussianQuaker wrote:
I mean if someone takes away jobs, poison the Russian children drug, alters parks, squares, playgrounds, under Parking lots, cafes - they will want to prove something?
About selects jobs - if within the law, no, but about the rest of you - completely.

RussianQuaker wrote:
What's wrong, when every nation living on its territory? Beauty.
And if the person was born and raised in another country? Or the person does not like his territory, he doesn't want to live on it and decides to move to another?

Reverrius wrote:
Well. Then tell me if according to statistics, 75% of Russians consider themselves Orthodox, it is logical to me if you already also considered Orthodox?
Consider? I actually say who someone is or does in fact, regardless of, whether they consider themselves to anything specific or not. The same scum that takes away jobs, do not consider themselves as such and remorse does not feel, and believes that ryousuke lazy pig.

Hrusov not 75%, I hope at least this. And so, actually a lot, and in General Russian can be described as Orthodox. In absentia can and me to refer to the degree a probability of 75% (well, let's say if this figure). But in my case it's not authentic, and che what?

Reverrius wrote:
And more importantly in the context of our discussion, whether I should consider this a statistical fact - a feature of Russian that is associated with the blood, by genetics?
No, it is generally regarded as a degradation of white people in General. The point that be viewed as Orthodox - mentality, which is entrenched in the area. The point that to consider it as the Christian seems to have racial features (ignore the fact that white people are not the same).

Now, I'm not talking about a kind of stupidity. I was talking about her degree. To delve? Why are some communities, even wearing some symbols do not commit all sorts of pornographic rituals in such quantity, than others?

Another question I can not answer. Calm walk in the dark close to the companies, appearance is associative with Gopnik?

Reverrius wrote:
How do I know? Each one of them should be analyzed individually.
And the percentage of those who treats you are clearly not loyal, you know? And the percentage of those who treats you like a neutral, but if attacked you are not loyal comrades will be on his side or at least see what was going on and would be indifferent?

Reverrius wrote:
It was about compassion, about feelings, not about what I believe.
Well, I suppose now I will say that I sincerely sympathize with 6 million Jews. Why by your logic, I necessarily lying?

Reverrius wrote:
About selects jobs - if within the law, no, but about the rest of you - completely.
What kind of savagery. How is it possible to select jobs within the law?

Now, speaking positively about how to stop those who reworks what he wants for Parking and cafe. You in what region you live? You all saw who mostly keeps these car parks, cafes?

Reverrius wrote:
And if the person was born and raised in another country?
This means that his ancestors got here somehow. How they got here and for what purpose is the question. If you do not run a lot of all that is not handy such inadvertently find themselves the descendants will be just minor exceptions.

Reverrius wrote:
Or the person does not like his territory, he doesn't want to live on it and decides to move to another?
Everyone has the right to live on the land that corresponds to his cultural and spiritual level... it sounds Nice in theory, isn't it? But in practice millions of us who are not getting knocks. Well, pull them people, pull.

RussianQuaker wrote:
Now, I'm not talking about a kind of stupidity. I was talking about her degree. To delve? Why are some communities, even wearing some symbols do not commit all sorts of pornographic rituals in such quantity, than others?
It depends on the cultural and economic development + political/religious propaganda. But not from nationality or race. As an example, North Korea and South Korea: one race, one nationality - but these are two totally different mentality and totally different degrees of stupidity.

RussianQuaker wrote:
Calm walk in the dark close to the companies, appearance is associative with Gopnik?
No, I try not to pass close. :) But to chauvinism, nationalism or Nazism is not irrelevant.

RussianQuaker wrote:
And the percentage of those who treats you are clearly not loyal, you know? And the percentage of those who treats you like a neutral, but if attacked you are not loyal comrades will be on his side or at least see what was going on and would be indifferent?
If they have a flock mentality - that's their problem, not mine.

RussianQuaker wrote:
Well, I suppose now I will say that I sincerely sympathize with 6 million Jews. Why by your logic, I necessarily lying?
It is impossible to genuinely sympathize with those whom you don't know. It's like a passionate love of the man about whom you know nothing.

RussianQuaker wrote:
What kind of savagery. How is it possible to select jobs within the law?
What does it mean to select? Just migrant workers willing to work for lower wages than local.

RussianQuaker wrote:
This means that his ancestors got here somehow. How they got here and for what purpose is the question.
Well, that was the Soviet Union, many Nations on its territory traveled here and there, mixed up. And Russia has always been a multinational country. Or the United Kingdom.

Reverrius
You did not answer the question he himself raised: what's in it for me that I was someone with a probability of 75% considers Orthodox? What about that one who thinks so?

Reverrius wrote:
It depends on the cultural and economic development + political/religious propaganda. But not from nationality or race.
So after all how did it happen that I will not say what group clearly show yourself how fabulous Boobs in proportion and in quality? And all within one group, i.e. clearly not a coincidence that in different cultures one group of the same garbage.

Reverrius wrote:
As an example, North Korea and South Korea: one race, one nationality - but these are two totally different mentality and totally different degrees of stupidity.
Here I give you within a very small group is all different... occasionally. I'm telling you about are quite a lot of groups, but the same inside. Feel the difference? About North or South Korea have very little to say, so anything concrete to say.

Reverrius wrote:
No, I try not to pass close. :) But to chauvinism, nationalism or Nazism is not irrelevant.
Has. To discrimination Gopnik, or at least the guys in the pants and capco. If you do so you can say %) . And th pass then I'm afraid if it's just a stereotype that dressed so would be to spit seeds and waving his arms?

Reverrius wrote:
If they have a flock mentality - that's their problem, not mine.
All your. To explain why, or he guess?

Reverrius wrote:
It is impossible to genuinely sympathize with those whom you don't know. It's like a passionate love of the man about whom you know nothing.
Well. But if your eyes beat someone unfamiliar't think he'd care?

Reverrius wrote:
What does it mean to select? Just migrant workers willing to work for lower wages than local.
And what it ultimately lead?

Have not answered the question, who in your region is holding a semi-legal Parking lots and stuff?

Reverrius wrote:
Well, that was the Soviet Union, many Nations on its territory traveled here and there, mixed up. And Russia has always been a multinational country. Or the United Kingdom.
I wonder how you'd do if there was a dialogue in any European country? There is almost always one country, one nation. Nominally at least. And immigrants climbs no less than in Russia, with all its attendant occupation and behavior.

Now, about the fact that the Soviet Union was, and when perestroika in Russia, the territory has decreased and people have left - is again in the form of individual exceptions. If about those areas of Russia that are not republics, even more so. Take into account that the restructuring of Russian, by the way incidentally(!), suddenly began to tear as claws of the former Soviet and Russian republics rest and thus, ha ha, even more diluting themselves a number of other peoples in the territories of the Russian residence.

And it is not clear how the millions of migrants are related to a multinational?

RussianQuaker wrote:
I will be with, someone with a probability of 75% considers Orthodox? What about that one who thinks so?
It depends on how the individual with herd mentality belongs to the Orthodox. ;)

RussianQuaker wrote:
So after all how did it happen that I will not say what group clearly show yourself how fabulous Boobs in proportion and in quality?
Do you personally chalk it up to a national/racial differences, not on the environment? But you put one of the representatives of this ethnic group from childhood in a civilized society and prosperous secular area, and you'll get a completely different result.

RussianQuaker wrote:
Has. To discrimination Gopnik, or at least the guys in the pants and capco.
National/racial differences Gopnik is not relevant, so this example once again on my side.

RussianQuaker wrote:
And th pass then I'm afraid if it's just a stereotype that dressed so would be to spit seeds and waving his arms?
But I deny that the existence of muggers? No. I'm just saying that their behavior and way of life is not something national or racial that it is impossible to judge about the people or city as a whole.

RussianQuaker wrote:
But if your eyes beat someone unfamiliar't think he'd care?
If he didn't deserve it, then I sympathize. But it will be a specific person, not something out there somewhere whom I've never seen or heard.

RussianQuaker wrote:
And what it ultimately lead?
To ensure that people with herd mentality will be around to blame migrant workers.

RussianQuaker wrote:
Have not answered the question, who in your region is holding a semi-legal Parking lots and stuff?
Didn't pay attention.

RussianQuaker wrote:
And it is not clear how the millions of migrants are related to a multinational?
You mean migrants started. I also talked about that historically that in any territory you can find people of different nationalities.

Reverrius
RussianQuaker
A lot of the debaters? What argument, then, is the fate of mother Russia decide? Let's briefly, not to read all of your long cart.

Wing42
Debated about whether or not a reasonable exaltation of one nation over another.
And about the herd vs. individual thinking.

Reverrius
And one of you is right?

Wing42
No. Because no man, no race or nationality has an advantage over the other. The difference is only in the mind of man.
No matter what nation, but if the person is shit and a nationality here neprichem. And in Africa it will be shit.
P. S. about Africa told pure sayings.

Sidorovich12
Why do they then argue?

Wing42
Bored at home behind a computer to sit. Games, movies all have become boring, and all the other forums they are already crap.
As they say stupid to do nothing .

Sidorovich12
They also believe in what they say. Terrible people, or not say.

Wing42
Well, a person with belief is better than none. But only with Kaimi, is another question. But usually such disputes can be quite hot and often end in a ban.
But on the other hand it is necessary than synapses strain to permanently behind a computer to degrade.

In General, no one gave a clear definition !
Nazism - a form so to speak of government generally socialist and should Always be the leader,the Fuhrer,the king. Ie actually an ideological state which oppresses its people in terms of: dissent, religion, economy and so on. The people generally in that state elections do not solve anything fiction.
Nationalism is in fact the population gosdarstva which is self-determination and can run the state, he doesn't need all sorts of leaders and even the state as a system )))
Ie nationalists do not need the state ! Is there in Switzerland there is direct democracy.

X_ray_83
In our time, neither Nazism nor nationalism is not radically affect the lives of the population. The power and money. Here are the main factors determining the behavior of the people and the situation in the country.
You can buy everything, everything can be sold. The main thing to offer a good price that would suit everyone.

Wing42
Wing42 wrote:
And one of you is right?
Read our discussion and make your conclusion. :)