18 Wheels of Steel vs Rig 3 (Rig'n'Roll)
What is still better in your opinion?Here's a look at my rig 3 is utter dross,and 18 wheels of steel though optimized and you can play with pleasure not something that isWell... 18 Kale your 300метров conscientiously fulfill, but the D3 is on the order of interesting
Joel18 covers the game for the primitive, D3 is already a simulator
In what way? In the sense that the trucks run at all 200, it is not necessary to mate/ to disengage that sleep is not needed, or about these races.
eReS XXI developed probably half the time the protection was invented
they do not invent...
cons, and it arose in consequence of the protracted
this is what for example? graphics and.....
Primitive is the one who thinks D3 is a good game and that everything in it is wonderful.
Primitive is the one who thinks D3 is a good game and that everything in it is wonderful.
Well, I mean primitive...almost))) I just think the optimization is not great. Well else think that done properly.
WTCC, I fully agree.
On a subject: which is better, D3 or 18WoS? A bit unusual to compare two games with an age gap of almost 8 years. Relevant in comparison to the Truck 2 and Hard Truck: 18 Wheels of Steel, and that 18WoS is not much behind the second truck. Now more about this and other aspects.
Here is a schedule of ratios of each of the qualities 18WoS, D2 and D3. Based on the user feedback by analyzing reviews and, in part, their own opinions.
* - for its time (2002), in fact, a year after D2, the graphics were at a decent level.
** - nothing new. All of it was in 18WoS series (PTTM, Convoy, Haulin etc).
Without a shadow of doubt the best game you can call Truckers 2. It's a cult game that is perfectly balanced and relevant for its time (2001)
Read more about the table:
Graphics
18 wheels of steel graphic component showed themselves on the positive side (remember - for 2002). There were the makings of realism, the use of shaders.
Truckers 2 graphics were, to put it mildly, toy. It looked like some plastic, but at the same time pleasant to look at. Given the fact that D-2 was released in 2001, it is possible to make a discount.
With regard to Truck 3, here the situation is more complicated. On the one hand D-3 is definitely graphically superior to the 18WoS series and D-2, and on the other hand, much not up to the standards of today. As correctly noticed already - graphics 2006. The moment passed, gentlemen developers.
Sound
The poor soundtrack and effects vested in the game 18 wheels of steel . Sounds dull, the recording quality is weak (probably saved in a recording Studio). In D-2 case with sound are much better. A driving soundtrack, and realistic engine sounds, ambient, all on the level.
In D-3 the sound worked perfectly. One of the few pluses.
The plot
About the story 18 wheels of steel didn't bring anything new. Standard routine - promotion of a company, hiring drivers is all we've seen (more on that later).
D-2 has truly managed to combine 3 genre: simulation, strategy and racing. In them was inspired by the idea of hiring drivers and promote their company developers 18WoS.
In Rig 3, as they say, in the best tradition, not only managed to maintain this combination, but also brought a new story, intertwined with the adventures and... in General, see for yourself ;) one of the advantages, for which the cost to play them.
Physical model
Not to mislead You, will bring clarity. Under the physical model refers to the behavior of vehicles on the road, in any case, not the damage model. So: physics in 18 wheels of steel was less reliable. Loaded the truck began to move slowly, during acceleration up to 70 miles per hour the braking distance could be at least 50 metres, squealing and leaving rubber on the asphalt black tire marks. The wheel in the cockpit, rotating through all 900 odd degrees, true. On stock the truck loaded to the eyeballs with the trailer you can climb the hill only in the lower gears. In General, here physics gave not a little attention, and is loved by many this game, again at the time.
Rig 2 also showed the nature of harsh reality. Cost to exceed the speed before a sharp turn, as the truck kept collapses or even leave in a ditch. Also the interaction with the landscape and the peculiarity of the road surface gave good results. In General, the best balance, in 2001, this physical model analogues were not.
Rig 3. Hmm..... I'm ashamed to say... In our time, with such capabilities, and do not realize what has already been done, many times, and even in his previous product... Trucks, flying at 200 km/h in the turns and sometimes abnormally insecure grip (on the clutch pedal later). Very strange. Let's hope that it is fixable.
As for the visual system injury, I will say this: in 18WoS they are not, in General, in D-2 in D-3 they are a bit better. And still today you can see enough examples of successfully implemented system damage, you can list such impressive projects, but I think not today it's not about them.
Interactivity
Pleasant impression left 18 wheels of steel. Of all I want to note the weight of the station, stopping in motels, the realization of a dream. It was even better to see the goods, changing with a certain frequency, to choose the most You are interested in trailer/platform/tank is not only on the amount of payment, but also in appearance. The presence of various licenses for certain types of goods also added interactivity, manifested some incentive. The presence of different bases was made a little bit of confusion (perhaps due to lack of signs), but in General had a positive effect.
Interactivity in D-2, as the progenitor of the genre, was the standard, so to speak. The balance is picked up by possibilities neither more nor less. Communication with the chauffeur/thug/COP/dealer/etc.. the order of the truck, the ability to switch places with the driver of Your company, a good set of upgrade main and additional nodes of transport, the relationship with crime and the security forces. The most eye-catching element, in my opinion, is the ability to pass the game behind the wheel of the car, finding alternative routes. And this is not the whole list.
In the next game of the series truckers got almost everything that was mentioned above. But nothing... Nothing new... and not everything is done better. Involuntarily the thoughts of how it worked in SoftLab-NSK 7 years?
Gameplay
Gameplay 18 wheels of steel... How can I put this delicately... neither fish nor fowl. That's the average. It all depends on Your mood. Ideal for a relaxing mood, however, slowly take the goods, observing (sometimes) speed limit and traffic rules, to move to the destination.
With Truckers 2 things are different. Game predisposes to aggressive style, to achieve victory by all means, extreme driving, pushing to risk. That's due to the perfect balance of the physical model, excellent sound and furious excitement in the rivalry with its competitors.
Rig 3, as it is surprising, not distinguished by anything new. A combination of unpredictable unrealistic physics as his truck, and opponents and the excitement of competition have received not the most positive results. I agree with the author of video review of D-3 Ulyana Kuksov, rivals, no less loaded on the same trucks as a bypass on the rails. Imbalance and synthetic, it should be noted - was not successful, the complication does not make the game better. Thanks to other elements such as plot and realistic sound, the overall picture takes on a positive side, but no more.
Optimization
In my opinion the most interesting and hotly debated topic in recent times is the optimization of the games. 18 wheels of steel was a very well optimized. In my practice there was not a single departure, no bug, nothing that could affect the passing game. The developers have paid attention to the possibility of various settings of the video system and management that had a positive impact in the future.
Rig 2 can't boast the same. As I recall, for truckers came out a few patches (where domestic igrostroy without them) that corrects a variety of bugs and shoals associated with physics, sound, video, and departures. About the compatibility with the new OS and can not speak.
Rig 3 is the height of disregard for the consumer. A similar situation was observed with a clear Sky. Free beta test before selling games in the West. Original, but not clever. Also heard the claim about implementation compatibility with gaming devices. The most common problem is the lack of auto-clutch. As it turns out - those who have two pedals, go to the forest? All hope for patches. If You have it and You are still interested.
As you can see, every game has its good points. Only need to be able to see them.
Some have expressed their dissatisfaction about the monotony of the scenery in all the current games of this genre. What do you actually want? Roadside cafes, old women selling milk on the roadside, the girls from the cooperative icicle, exotic animals running across the road and the neon billboards every 500 meters? In reality everything is different. Who traveled from city to city by car - you'll understand. You can go an hour, two, three... And did not see anything interesting. The woods give way to fields, fields, coasts, coast - mountainous terrain, and so on. And what is wrong with the city? So what that they are the same. You will see photos of different cities everywhere the architecture is the same, the imprint of the Soviet era. With the exception of large cities and regional centers. And it's not about city these games in the first place, their meaning is to deliver cargo from one city to another. If you want detailed urban landscapes, again there are some games, even very famous and having an appreciation of the gaming community. Decide for yourself what You are interested in. All at once, and many does not come up. Perhaps in the near future. And yet only such a more or less standardized projects can be called Rig 3 and German Truck Simulator ( trailer , promo , gameplay ), which will be released in 2 days at the time of writing these lines. The last I like much more.
At this stage, Truckers 3 do not compare. Already. Is that Euro Truck Simulator (the successor of the series 18 Wheels of Steel). And in the ETS a much more all balanced, optimized, designed and implemented. She is full of urban landscapes, all sorts of trinkets and thingies, but it works great and it is really nice to play an hour or two, maybe more. The developers SoftLab-NSK missed the time. Sorry...
PS: ardent defenders of the publisher, as well as persons interested in sales of the game, can (and will) long and hard to throw in me rotten tomatoes and Slippers. But we all know what is what and what games should be, and what is not.
boring your 18калес from one edge of the card to another did not have enough patience to get there, and the picture is in D3 is not worse than the ETS for example.... I remember earlier played games in DOS and nothing we are alive and kicking, and right now, I'd played in something old... but the computers have not complimentary
boring your 18калес from one edge of the card to another did not have enough patience to drive
18WoS for a peaceful style of play, the chill slowly steer from Chicago to Cincinnati ;)
and the picture is in D3 is not worse than the ETS for example
And this is considering that the D3 weighs ~ 10 Gb, and ETS only ~ 400 mb. With the load on Europe (the name of the localized Russian version) graphically looks more soft and nice on the background of the same Truck 3. And the release date from ETS in 2008, for its age the game looks quite decent.
Yes boring 18 wheels?That I see in D3 is not boring it is necessary to press the pedal to the failure to deliver the goods on time and to think how mad the traffic did not overtake or kink and that in fact UFOs-the police will put on the headstock.
Already out GTS and reviews the people responds better about the game than D3. D3 is bugs+brakes are our best friends.
Better than D3 is that it has a plot and all the rest of it merges GTS.
WTCC, here here! D3 only started to do when XS and GTS recently, thus proving that you can make a good self-contained simulator of a cargo transportation in standard time frame.
PS: even I do not understand... always write officially release on January 13... Share the link in PM ;)
And this toy makes and GTS,ETS,18WoS,D-3,D-2 At the physics:
http://www.uraldev.ru/articles/index.php?id=28%20]
Syl on demo at the bottom.
Probablyyou (to quote yourself ) lyrics.
The game is worthy! No doubt! Those who slander her is just a stupid blind.
What did they want ? The story of the Mafia, CoD MW special effects, graphics generally prohibitive.... ???!!!
I appeal to you, blind!
At this point, the Truck 3 has no competitors! And will not for a long time.
This is a simple SIM. freight! Moreover, with the plot, dynamics, music, and graphics! At first I was disappointed in her, and then we weighed all sober!
It's a good game! What do You want more ? To get out of the truck and shoot people like in GTA ? Yeah, could be something to modify... But for what ? All so not bad. And 18 wheels and the like, it's a different game. I will say that comparing these games is the same that to compare Medal Pacific Assault and COD 5. Like the two shooters, but what is different, though there and there the Japanese and the war. So it is here. Well, better graphics in the future ETS and GTS. ( series of 18 wheels ). But she odnoobrazny and get bored. Although I am Rubaiyat from the 1st Dalnoboev and 1 x 18 wheels ...
I think schA men sit, e...chickpeas on his chest, scratch his chest ( and even four ), write a patch, and we will be all happy in the long-distance 3.
After all, it was a good game. a lot of nuances, interesting innovations, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY - the SOUND !!!!!!!!!!! I HEARD THE FIRST TIMES THE NORMAL SOUND OF THE DIESEL!!!!
Not Zylowski on the Actros ( as in the 1-x Dinoboy ).
So rubies boys. And do not let the snot.
If I'm wrong, please explain.
AK 47
EP! You'd have a link for NFS Shift gave!
And I would say -yo, guys! And this igruha all hrusciov. on the dynamics and quality of graph machines and their behavior on the track will hang!
Well, what the hell ?
Here he think!
Read your damn comments and not get tired of surprising YOU all!
with tov. eReS XXI about pulling in D3 - I agree!
well, I can play a few hours in the 18 wheels ( meaning and ETS, etc.).
But in D3 - once a few real hours lost and still not tired!
Well, the characters and people in General have not finished... Well, there is...
WELL, THEY are THERE, even though people for some reason, and cut! But in vain!
We had to leave!
So that's about them - about people. Perhaps we will not compare people in D3 and in the same Crisis ? Or with a magnificent
animation of the fighters in CoD MW 2 ?
But what is too long it did - Yes. It is wrong. Fans developed a lot prochitali.
And that way, I wonder what the lights will continue to develop ?
I would like our open spaces, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan... but in General all former USSR !
But what ?! except fucking would be, if you go from the steppes of Kazakhstan to the mountains along the serpentine....!!!
Or ride in native Siberia... to Drive in Arkhangelsk, Murmansk, Sochi ...
Yes MAZ or KAMAZ! Or better on Silke 130-Ohm in the beginning! And then, it is possible for a car to sit.
OOO! The game as it will bring us back to the years 80 - 90! With mobsters, cops, etc.
But now I have asked myself that question!
How, then, THIS game will be done ?
Of course, we have some will be easier than in California. But by the end of 2015 we even dream yet will not see.
This is the most serious problem. That people-that - developed, ready to give us what we want, but compete to wait - it's deadly.
By that time, CoD will already be like in space, with the plot etc from Warhammer pancake.
Will not cut a lot, and as they are there... Eldar, orks, TYRANIDS!!!! Hehe.
OOO! And by the way this idea!
Check it out guys!
Code - but how would Cooking. What a mess it will be when landing Marines on the planet, the infected Tyranids!
3 of the company.
For the people of KOs. assault and somebody else...
You're an unhealthy movie, show me at least a couple of adykwative posts about what is missing in the game on people to shoot and D3 is not SIM is ARCADE!
Correctly the person wrote, series 18, ETS and GTS for quiet people. Here I am in a joke to sit in a soft chair, put my hands on the steering wheel and "pador" quietly on the track listening to his favorite music, on the bases long and tedious to park the trailer on the mirrors in a narrow space, and not to feel like a psychopath who escaped from a fool hijacking a truck and he sees levitating fat trucks demanding (missing two letters "ye" because it turns out a bad word) balloonist or watching stupid insavers as someone rides on my truck base or fuels it.
and D3 is not SIM it's ARCADE!
It's a sim arcade.
Correctly the person wrote, series 18, ETS and GTS for quiet people. Here I am in a joke to sit in a soft chair, put my hands on the steering wheel and "pador" quietly on the track listening to his favorite music, on the bases long and tedious to park the trailer on the mirrors in a narrow space, and not feel like a psychopath who escaped from the fool hijacking the truck
And yet this series is a very boring lift from Berlin to Hamburg leave the base in a virtually empty city further go, on a completely empty autobahn (remember D-3 where traffic on highways differs from traffic on normal roads) where we are sometimes caught up with stupid teapots (they still love to turn on the turntables after the beginning of the maneuver).
And GTS is also far from pure sim.
As Komrad Mauser said:
Before the D3 exit all the wheels and now look what they turn out to be ideal
AK 47, that's what you're sculpting???
And yet this series is very boring to take the cargo from Berlin to Hamburg leave the base in a virtually empty city further go, on a completely empty autobahn
Keep the screens of Euro Truck Simulator (With cargo in Europe) sreenshots. Traffic in the 18WoS series as well as ETS and GTS is more than enough. And he behaves quite logically. If you turn on the turn sign on the track, behind the going car will not overtake you, and will throw off the speed to allow you to complete the maneuver. You haven't even played ETS and the 18WoS series, but you dare say something. Otherwise, your words can not be interpreted as pure D-3 PR. Accordingly, you have an interest in promoting such an unfinished product.
As Komrad Mauser said: Before the D3 exit all the wheels and now look what they turn out to be ideal
Who's that anyway? Series 18WoS when was released? Remember? Since it's so bad, why are there so many fan sites on the network dedicated to a particular game series, as well as a lot of modifications? Wake up, you're gray!!! You quote incomprehensible who and do not know from where, as if everyone knows who mauser is. Probably a great predictor of D-3 success, not otherwise.
The ETS series is not only popular and appreciated and loved, it is really much better than many simulators of this class. To it there are also many modifications, not only transport, but also maps, large maps!!! Take the example of Post USSR Mod. It represents almost the entire post-Soviet space. And if you want to say that this series is not revered by fans of trucking simulators, then it's time for you to check your eyesight and hearing, and brains at the same time.
GTS is tearing truckers 3 in all parameters, whether it's physics, graphics, etc. In a year, or even earlier SCS Software and Rondomedia will release an even more advanced simulator series ETS, and softlab nsk will sit and scratch turnips, because their truckers and now no one needs much, and with the appearance of an even better product in general, all for them.
Do you want to talk more in detail? I'm asking for a face.
Keep the screens of Euro Truck Simulator (With cargo in Europe) sreenshots. Traffic in the 18WoS series as well as ETS and GTS is more than enough.
Here's the GTS shorn:
And where's the traffic?
And he behaves quite logically. If you turn on the turn sign on the track, behind the going car will not overtake you, and will throw off the speed to allow you to complete the maneuver.
You little did not understand I meant the following situation, let's say we catch up with the car going on the left lane we drive on the right car starts maneuvering without warning about it that is, it starts rebuilding and only then turns on the turntable.
You haven't even played ETS and the 18WoS series, but you dare say something. Otherwise, your words can not be interpreted as pure D-3 PR. Accordingly, you have an interest in promoting such an unfinished product.
Don't say something you don't know.
Who's that anyway? Series 18WoS when was released? Remember?
The first game in the series was released in 2002
A Mauser visitor to the fan forum about all the famous truck sims and not only:
http://playtruck.2bb.ru/
The ETS series is not only popular and appreciated and loved, it is really much better than many simulators of this class.
I don't remember a full-fledged project on the topic of long-distance work except 18WoS,ETS,GTS,D-2,D-3.
To it there are also many modifications, not only transport, but also maps, large maps!!! Take Post USSR Mod, for example. It represents almost the entire post-Soviet space. And if you want to say that this series is not revered by fans of trucking simulators, then it's time for you to check your eyesight and hearing, and brains at the same time.
Post USSR Mod knows everyone who has ever played ETS is a great card and thanks to the leads that make cards, ETS models do not forget.
GTS rips truckers 3 in all parameters, be it physics, graphics, etc.
Where's the physics at GTS? the graph is almost better than in d-3.
In a year or so, SGS Software and Rondomedia will release an even more advanced ETS series simulator
I have no doubt that they will release a couple more trucks will clean up the economy, etc.
truckers and now no one needs especially, and with the advent of even better product in general, all will forget about them as a terrible dream.
Please speak for yourself, not for everyone.
P.S.You don't forget the Far Light project yet.
Here's the GTS shorn:
Did you want the country road to be like an hour in Moscow? What I see on the screen is called "save-load." In fact, on the track practical always there is movement, regardless of the time of day. In the ETS series as in life, there are congested sections of the track, there are free, but absolutely empty roads in the game is not and never was.
Correctly said Celdor about the long-distance fighters 3: "rather than feel like a psychopath who escaped from a fool stealing a truck and he sees levitating giraffes"
and WTCC: "That I look at D3 is not boring to press the pedal to the failure to deliver the cargo in time and think as if the frenzied traffic did not overtake you or freak out, and then the Nlo-police will put on the money"
You little did not understand I meant the following situation, let's say we catch up with the car going on the left lane we drive on the right car starts maneuvering without warning about it that is, it starts rebuilding and only then turns on the turntable.
You're describing the D-3 situation. That's where the crazy traffic is. And in ETS, it's the other way around. Even if someone walking next to me on the track decides to take my row, he will just drop the speed, and not break through. In my practice, there has not been a single accident with such a scenario. You don't know the situation and you don't know what you're writing about, because you've been playing ETS for 5 minutes. Now look here:
Over a day of real time, I've seen quite a lot in Euro Truck Simulator, and not the whole map is open yet.
A Mauser visitor to the fan forum about all the famous truck sims and not only:
I'm down to the waist who is Mauser, you refer not on the topic, do not go to third parties, it's not about them. I can also write a lot of things and where to write, as well as give a bunch of quotes, but it does not make any sense, because it does not make sense in the beginning.
I don't remember a full-fledged project on the topic of long-distance work except 18WoS,ETS,GTS,D-2,D-3.
How about Big Mutha Truckers 1-2, Rebel Trucker?
Post USSR Mod knows everyone who has ever played ETS is a great map and thanks to the leads that make cards, ETS models do not forget.
The same cannot be said for D2, D3.
I'm not saying this series isn't revered it has its own fan circle like any game.
And not small enough. This Simulator with a capital letter, better than that neither I nor many others, has not yet seen. The new game series, GTS, proves it.
Where's the physics at GTS? the graph is almost better than in d-3.
It also says that you didn't deign to even look at the game itself, just read the description and looked at the screenshots. I'm more than sure that you're an employee of 1c or Nsk, since so zealously defend the product, which physics in relation to ETS and GTS does not even smell.
I have no doubt that they will release a couple more trucks will clean up the economy, etc.
What you write doesn't make sense, because the economy in the ETS series is only improving with each new version. If you don't know, GTS is nothing more than a sequel to the ETS series, the successor to 18WoS.
Please speak for yourself, not for everyone.
I speak for myself and the user whose opinion coincides with mine.
P.S.You don't forget the Far Light project yet.
You haven't heard from him for a long time... I think it would be easier for them not to "reinvent the wheel" creating everything from scratch, but to make a global modification for ETS/GTS, with their maps, trucks, traffic, objects and other details. And so - xs when it comes out ...