18 Wheels of Steel vs Rig 3 (Rig'n'Roll)

Did you want the country road to be like an hour in Moscow? What I see on the screen is called "save-load." In fact, on the track practical always there is movement, regardless of the time of day. In the ETS series as in life, there is
Yes you're right this is a loaded save in the town of Drtmuhd screen I did when I went to the autobahn,
and on those screens that you showed me parking on every screenshot of an empty highway with one or three cars.
and WTCC: "I look at D3 not boring do not have to press the pedal to the point of failure to deliver the cargo on time and think as if the frenzied traffic did not overtake you or freak out, but the Nlo-police will put on the money
Personally, I do not have traffic and eat as it should.
You're describing the D-3 situation. That's where the crazy traffic is.
No I described the situation from ETS,GTS.
You don't know the situation and you don't know what you're writing about, because you've been playing ETS for 5 minutes. Now look here:
Yes I didn't pass the ETS but played for a week with the Post Ussr card and I'm unlikely to overpower GTS because after two flights I'm going to sleep.
I'm more than sure that you're an employee of 1c or Nsk, since so zealously defend the product, which physics in relation to ETS and GTS does not even smell.
If you follow your logic then you are an employee of SCS Software and Excalibur Publishing
What you write doesn't make sense, because the economy in the ETS series is only improving with each new version. If you don't know, GTS is nothing more than a sequel to the ETS series, the successor to 18WoS.
I'm aware of GTS is a piece of card from ETS.
I speak for myself and the user whose opinion coincides with mine.
Similar to Watson.

Yes you're right this is a loaded save in the town of Drtmuhd screen I did when I went to the autobahn,
and on those screens that you showed me parking on every screenshot of an empty highway with one or three cars.
Sorry, the screens aren't 360 degrees. I repeat - In the ETS series as in life, there are congested sections of the track, there are free, but absolutely empty roads in the game is not and never was.

Personally, I do not have traffic and eat as it should.
In almost all civilized mills there are cameras that record violations, as well as read the number of the vehicle. That's the way it is in Europe. In any case, the payment of the fine can not be avoided. And for your information, on the track in violation of the speed limit or other traffic rules money is not withdrawn immediately, payment for all fines is made directly on the base after delivery of cargo. If you were really playing ETS, you'd know it.

No I described the situation from ETS,GTS.
Video to the studio.

Yes I didn't pass the ETS but played for a week with the Post Ussr card and I'm unlikely to overpower GTS because after two flights I'm going to sleep.
How did you play Post USSR if you want to open at least half of the card? And this is Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Poland, the Czech Republic. And at least 200,000 euros to open offices in these states. In addition, there are also transportation costs: fuel, TO and upgrade of the truck, payment of fines for violations and damage of goods, purchase of licenses for transportation of dangerous goods ... You didn't even spend 10 minutes. Until I see a screenshot or a save, these are empty words.

If you follow your logic then you are an employee of SCS Software and Excalibur Publishing
Oh yes!!! You've got me unsyoled! I would like to, but the qualifications are not enough yet.
I stand up for my opinion and do not agitate others to quickly take away the D-3 and install ETS, GTS and play only in them. I do not write about the game that does not coincide with reality. What can't be said about you.
I'm just stating the facts, putting the dots above i, so that people like you don't mislead ignorant people.

I'm aware of GTS is a piece of card from ETS.
It would be more correct to say that this is part of the ETS map, enlarged in scale, given the increase in the number of German cities and the distance between them.

Similar to Watson.
At least we agree on something.

In the ETS series as in life, there are congested sections of the track, there are free, but absolutely empty roads in the game is not and never was.
Strange but I have them.
How did you play Post USSR if you want to open at least half of the card? And this is Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Poland, the Czech Republic. And at least 200,000 euros to open offices in these states. In addition, there are also transportation costs: fuel, TO and upgrade of the truck, payment of fines for violations and damage of goods, purchase of licenses for transportation of dangerous goods ... You didn't even spend 10 minutes. Until I see a screenshot or a save, these are empty words.
We just have to choose Poland as the starting region.
Here's the save:
http://narod.ru/disk/16839856000/save.rar.html
I stand up for my opinion and do not agitate others to quickly take away the D-3 and install ETS, GTS and play only in them. I do not write about the game that does not coincide with reality. What can't be said about you.
Well, I also do not say that all removed GTS and played D-3 I do not lead people astray I write their feelings and impressions of the game, both the igor has its pros and cons and I do not deny the facts of D-3 terrible optimization, glitchy, physics on the characters look nasty but the beautiful game bright world fleet with the ability to tune a good economic model Well done road.And in ETS Huge map of a lot of cargo the ability to create mods normal optimization and more real control of the truck,GTS map became more detailed appeared licensed trucks salons have become detailed but the rain still looks like spitting, complete lack of police.
It would be more correct to say that this is part of the ETS map, enlarged in scale, given the increase in the number of German cities and the distance between them.
That is, it is an addon that we want to sell as an independent product.

If you'll excuse me, gentlemen, I'll step in. . . .
Guys!
You're both AK and Wasteland right. Each in its own way and in a compartment.
What are you trying to prove with FOAM at the mouth?
Well, how many people, the same and tastes. At least you've bred the devils.
Once again, you ARE BOTH RIGHT. So what are you figuring out?!
Initially, the author of the theme thought to see the drunk, creating this theme.
Why? Because it's two different games. WELL, THEY'RE DIFFERENT! And that's it.
In the topic of affiliates, I expressed my opinion on the topic of comparison.
But I'll say it again,
"The game is decent! There's no argument! Those who piss it off are just stupid blind people.
What did they want? The plot of the Mafia, special effects CoD MW, graphics in general exorbitant.... ???!!!
I'm speaking to you, blind people!
At the moment, Truckers 3 has no competitors! And it won't be for long.
It's a simple sim. Cargo transportation! And with the plot, dynamics, music, and graphics! I was disappointed in her at first, and then I weighed everything soberly!
It's a good game! What else did you want? Get out of the tractor and shoot people like in the GTA? Well, yes, it would be possible to refine something... But behind what? It's not bad enough. And 18 wheels and the like, it's a different game. I will say that comparing these games is the same as comparing the Pacific Assault Medal and COD 5. Like two shooters, but what different, although there, and there Japanese and war. It's the same here. Well better graphics in ETS and the future of GTS. (series of 18 wheels). But she's a one-on-one and quickly bored. Although I was chopping off 1 long-range and 1st 18 wheels...

I think the men will sit, e... Chick on the chest, scratch the breasts (and more), write a patch, and will make us all happy in the Long-distance 3.

After all, a good game turned out. a lot of nuances, interesting innovations, and MOST MAIN - SOUND !!!!!!!!!!! I HEARD THE NORMAL SOUND OF DIESEL FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!
And not silovskiy on Akros (as in 1 Dnoboy).

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And I'll add that with all due respect to 18-WoS, I can't get through a third.
Interest disappears in a week. There is no plot, no roar of diesel, no radio, cars in general some wonderful.
In the 2nd modification of the first wheels, there was the same smoke, and we steal tires, and brake path ... Metres away.
As one of you wrote - that they want to sit in a soft chair and drive quietly ...
Well, you've been in jail for three hours. What's next? The next day there are three more. On? Three more?
Body deffulation - 0. Plot -0. Sound -0....
I don't do the 18-wheel series because I'm a fan at heart.
But it is necessary to think soberly and evaluate.
Also, I agree about - ..."you're kind of like a mad... D3"
And I agree with that. I'm pretty tired of tearing the tractor and carrying it.
Sometimes you want to go and ride normally.
But that's the game.

I think the series of 18 wheels will need to be compared to the Far Light.
They're similar. But when this project is implemented - no one knows.

Strange but I have them.
There are no settings in the options regarding traffic density... But traffic that is! In the suburbs, on serpentine and road junctions there are decent clusters (not to be confused with traffic jams!), you have to weave behind them under 40-50km/h.

We just have to choose Poland as the starting region.
Strangely, I had only Italy, Germany and Switzerland available to me for the choice... After a certain time, I installed Post USSR.

Here's the save:
narod.ru/disk/16839856000/save.rar.html
What is the fashion version? I have 1.4 beta, when you download your save, the flight into the system.

And in ETS Huge map is a multitude of cargo opportunity to create mods of normal optimization and more real truck management
Now you contradict yourself: Where is the physics in GTS? the graph is almost better than in d-3.

I do not deny the facts of the D-3 terrible optimization, glitchy, physics on the characters look nasty but the game beautiful bright world of a good fleet with the possibility of tuning a good economic model, perfectly made road.
But it's better to write the truth :)

GTS map has become more detailed appeared licensed truck salons have become detailed but the rain still looks like spitting, the complete lack of police.
It is quite normal rain for a project of this magnitude. Games differ in both volume and technology. Why do you think SCS still use such primitive effects to implement rain and trees made of flat textures? So that everyone can run games even on the simplest system or laptop with high video images. And cops are not needed there, made as in real life, all over Europe there are cameras and other means of control. I've already explained how it works.

That is, it is an addon that we want to sell as an independent product.
I wouldn't say that. The engine has undergone changes, increased detail, more optimization (although some write that to eat resources has become more). Overall it will look about the way it was with the 18WoS series. If you look at them there were seven parts: Hard Truck: 18 Wheels of Steel, 18 Wheels of Steel: Pedal to the Metal, 18 Wheels of Steel: Across to America, 18 Wheels of Steel: Convoy, 18 Wheels of Steel: Long Haul, 18 Wheels of Steel: Haullin, 18 Wheels of Steel: Extreme Trucker. If you didn't miss anything. Let's hope the Euro Truck Simulator series will get no less than a few sequels :)

As for the D-3, I am very disappointed... Once I had high hopes for them, but in recent years it became clear - the game does not repeat the success of the previous part. And so it happened... I would still play Truckers 2 (in coupe with ETS and GTS), but the feature of the game's architecture and complete incompatibility with new and 64-bit systems does not give such an opportunity...

I'll tell you the following about traffic...
In ETS he will be calm and extremely cultural!
In some places, not densely populated, it is not enough, or it happens not, or only 5 cars will get.

In D 3 with traffic trouble.
But not serious. Even though he's rabid, brazen, etc., he's fun!
When on 4 lanes go 4 cars, parallel to each other, and do not allow to pass trucks.
And then these trucks squeeze them, thus I and 3 of my rivals line up as parallel as the traffic and begin to growl diesels, while specifically starting to smoke! I was tearing at this situation.
Or when I come off, when I'm going off the interchange, my opponent breaks into a poor car from traffic at full speed.
Or just rams it.

So here and here and here and - .

But it is more comfortable to play with traffic such as in the series of 18 wheels.

Ps
I downloaded the HAT.
Extreme Trucker is called.
There are 18 wheels on the engine. Such x... I am!
I wish I thought it was fun.

I remember Pedal to the metal.
It's a great game. But I was able to get a normal hack into it.
Because it's been ruined. And I had to put a Russian mod.
I couldn't do it with him for a long time either.
In general, I will say that it would be necessary to spend a good 3-4 hours at the game, you need to be interested in it.
And that would be in the game interested, this game you need to have a plot and economy.
If the series 18 wheels are not destined to be a plot, then I have no idea what the same economy should be in this game.
probably 10 times better than it is now.
Well, D3, you need to draw a new plot, the economy can be left and the old, although it is worth refining it.
To fix the traffic.

On the traffic bill:
(GTS)

"I'll say the following about traffic...
In ETS, he will be calm and extremely cultural!"
Well, yes, Europe all the same, with the madness of traffic D3 had to make a game about Russia, just a country of drivers to put it mildly dashing psychopaths.

Wasteland
Well, how are you disappointed in D3? What were you waiting for?
A mixture of GTA, MAFIA, KoD and NFS?
"I'm disappointed..."
I don't. And in 18 wheels - no!
1000,000 times - it's a game! You can't compare them.
And for the future, I'll tell everyone from the bottom of my heart - guys, don't drink other friend.
Everyone's tastes are different. And the one who was waiting for the D3 mix (see above) is clearly abnormal.

Celdor
It's empty.
It would be possible and more cars.
But it depends on the region. If close to the city, but clearly the traffic is small.
If the suburb - it will come down.

There are no settings in the options regarding traffic density... But traffic that is! In the suburbs, on serpentine and road junctions there are decent clusters (not to be confused with traffic jams!), you have to weave behind them under 40-50km/h.
I had the largest traffic congestion (5 cars) on the road to Berlin
What is the fashion version? I have 1.4 beta, when you download your save, the flight into the system.
Post USSR Mod v1.4 + addons
You can download from here:
http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2393740
I've still had my trailers replaced, traffic, traffic.
Now you contradict yourself: Where is the physics in GTS? the graph is almost better than in d-3.
In GTS, the physics of truck control is done better than in D-3, but the behavior of the truck for example in the rain is almost the same as in dry weather.
I wouldn't say that. The engine has undergone changes, increased detail, more optimization (although some write that to eat resources has become more). Overall it will look about the way it was with the 18WoS series. If you look at them were pieces: Hard Truck: 18 Wheels of Steel, 18 Wheels of Steel: Pedal to the Metal, 18 Wheels of Steel: Across to America, 18 Wheels of Steel: Convoy, 18 Wheels of Steel: Long Haul, 18 Wheels of Steel: Haullin, 18 Wheels of Steel: Extreme Trucker. If you didn't miss anything. Let's hope the Euro Truck Simulator series will get no less than a few sequels :)
The main thing is that they are improved not by removing part of the map added a couple of trucks but by improving the existing developments (very much want to see normal damage)
Video to the studio.
Is that going to work?

Well, how are you disappointed in D3? What were you waiting for?
A mixture of GTA, MAFIA, KoD and NFS?
I was waiting for realistic physics, good smart AI, decent graphics, high-quality optimization.


1000,000 times - it's a game! You can't compare them.
It turns out these games are not about long-range ... I didn't notice that right away?... You opened my eyes!!! =)
And the fact that about 18WoS for a long time we are not talking, and about D3 and ETS/GTS, this is a noe. Everything is clear, just to slap something, and the fact that the floor of the top of the explaining info - do not read.

Post USSR Mod v1.4 + addons
I've still had my trailers replaced, traffic, traffic.
I have no addons besides Post USSR, everything suits in the original. Maybe I'll swing later.

In GTS, the physics of truck control is done better than in D-3, but the behavior of the truck for example in the rain is almost the same as in dry weather.
I'm in the rain in ETS/GTS drags be healthy, even on a pumped truck, try to throw speed in sharp turns and problem sections of the track, otherwise the brake engine will not help. So it's all right in ETS/GTS.

The main thing is that they are improved not by removing part of the map added a couple of trucks but by improving the existing developments (very much want to see normal damage)
The new series is a new feature. There must be damage, necessarily. The guys have been doing their business for many years and have polished physics in previous projects. Now, I think, more attention will be paid to visual details. As for 18WoS - basically all the series were about different regions, as well as the evolution of the regions already created earlier. As such, there were no replacements for the card. Loved 18 Wheels of Steel: Convoy with its abundance of cities and trails.

Is that going to work?

And I didn't see anything interesting there. Traffic moves quite naturally. Did you say that traffic could be rebuilt into your ranks without paying attention to you? Said. That's the video I asked for.

Come on, tell me more about macros, or what they are there...
About scripts and so on...
"How did they all change!"

I was expecting more from D3, too. But compared to D2, this part has increased by a good dozen positions.
I'm not defending D3. I'm not happy with a lot of things in this game.
But 18 wheels, with all due respect to this series (oh yes, ETS and GTS), I can not play more than 1-2 weeks.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
You can put me on the floor of the site, say that I'm slob, etc.
The most people who love cargo will prove that it is a nudity.
Although, once again, I don't mind spoiling with a couple of weeks in the GTS.
In the game, the main gameplay (dynamics). The 18-wheel series doesn't have it.
I understand, if you still compare ETS, GTS with D 2, then another thing.
And with D3 - complete nonsense.
DIFFERENT GAMES.
Someone told me that the 18-wheel series (ETS and GTS) is a simulator.
And the series of long-range - it's ARCADE!
So again I will ask / I will say - what to compare them.
Compare another pancake NFS and Flatout. It's a race, isn't it?

I have no addons besides Post USSR, everything suits in the original. Maybe I'll swing later.
These are official addons.
And I didn't see anything interesting there. Traffic moves quite naturally.
Look at the wagon it goes to the turn at all not including the turntable.
Did you say that traffic can be rebuilt into your ranks without paying attention to you? Said. That's the video I asked for.
That's what I said.
(they still love to turn on the turntables after the manoeuvre starts).
The view will be but later.

That's what we're talking about! Everyone was waiting for the simulator, and what did they get? Arcade. But we're going to have it snim!
You're saying that 18WoS, ETS, GTS are nudity? And where did you see the life of a trucker was colorful and full of idle events? These games completely convey the spirit of everyday life of the average driver of the truck, and even with reliable physics, pleasant graphics (ETS/GTS, so you do not enjoy the 18WoS), the economic system and other equally well-implemented opportunities.
And your statements on the theme "Come on, tell me about macros, or how they are there..." and "Compare another pancake NFS and Flatout. But the race is not at all in place. Although you don't have to wait for each other.

"Guys let's live together." ©
You are already starting to switch to personalities, and it is not very good, soon the topic will turn into an empty throp about which of you here is the smartest, calm down and let's discuss.... What's there to discuss? Everything is already clear, both games have big disadvantages and both games are not what we would like them to be.
It's just that this holivar has become boring.
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Don't pay attention, I'm in a mood like this... Maybe tomorrow I'll flirt on this topic :)))

With figs Post USSR MOD v1.4 is an official add-on, it's rather amateur.
The official addition is where England is added.

Look at the wagon it goes to the turn at all not including the turntable.
they still love to turn on the turntables after the manoeuvre
In the video, the truck stands in the right row, respectively, the turn can not be turned on. He did not disturb anyone, calmly turned and went on. And on the track of such kurezes I have not seen, all participants of the movement timely use turns, signals and observe the distance.

The same cannot be said of D-3. This suggests that the developers did not deign to properly work out AI. But they had more than enough time.
In general, it is very strange, so much time to spend and release such raw, and even with expired graphics. At the game and other exhibitions said that the bugs rule, grind the balance of upgrades trucks, etc., and in fact it is unknown what caused such a long development.

With figs Post USSR MOD v1.4 is an official add-on, it's rather amateur.
By the way, yes.

You are already starting to switch to personalities, and it is not very good, soon the topic will turn into an empty throp about which of you here is the smartest, calm down and let's discuss.... What's there to discuss? Everything is already clear, both games have big disadvantages and both games are not what we would like them to be.
It's just that this holivar has become boring.
So we know who goes on personalities, we, reasonable homosapience, trying to set the truth together and shed light on certain pros and cons of these wonderful and not so games ;)

Folks, and I do agree with SS46. Well, I think you can't compare these two games so directly... GTS is exactly a simulator (no)... And D3 is a kind of "race-rpg" mix.
Played in ETS, real time about 20 hours, reached the level of "Profi" (3rd), but really tired of playing ... Even an hour a day... It's boring and boring... I hope in GTS (with the company and garage) will be more interesting ...
But I can't get tired of truckers 3 yet... That's just set glitches and brakes ... About the second generally silent, one word - LEGEND!


Tin! While I was writing 1 post, you wrote 6 posts! :)))

Wasteland, PLEASE, don't answer him... Just forget...

Well raw AI and what?
And let's put every test site on each model?
Yes, there was more than enough time.

But your suggestion of "spending so much time" is nonsense.
Explain why.
... To create a real staff, with major buildings, etc., that would be at least 60% like the original that takes a lot of time.
Why do you think they lived three years in America? Yes, I'll sweat that photo / video shooting - fit, and potm also and transfer to the computer, creating textures and other... And I can read it for a long time.
It was also spent time to retor at your favorite economy.
HER balance, etc.
That's what took a long time. Although I was also waiting for a new engine...

And in your ETS /GTS? Where is the real road? Where are the real though and smaller cities?
And nature? Where is she? There's just a set of phony, custom textures. All.

And of course, they are komanya, and rivets these sims one by one.

What, again disagree, and send me into the woods?