Secrets of the alpha / beta version of GTA: VC (Grand Theft Auto: Vice City)
Previous topicHere's something I don't know about this ... can you tell us in more detail which islands you need to sail to?))
I'm talking about Gator Keys (literal translation - Alligator Archipelago) - another "object" among the cut missions from the game, which also Tommy gets on the phone, though this time from Avery. Most likely R * wanted to make a prototype for the Florida Keys archipelago, which is located south of Miami.
Original text from Wiki:
Avery: "Hey Tommy, it's Avery! Now listen, I got me all tied up at the moment and I have a representative of mine needs chaperoning out to the Gator Keys. I'm after some land out that way , so I'm sending someone out to sweeten the deal. Could you do me a favor and make sure he gets there ok? "
Tommy: "Yeah, sure thing Avery. Where '
Avery: "He's just finishing some business at the building site. I said you'd pick him up from there."
Tommy: "No problem. See you later, Avery."
I don't translate literally, but the meaning is this - Avery is busy as always, so he asks Tommy to meet the representative at the construction site after he finishes his business, and to deliver him to these very islands. As I understand it, the purpose of the escort is to seize the land (to settle some business), which, in principle, is characteristic of this character.
Unfortunately, we could not get more information. For some time I tried to find something that would indicate the archipelago, but to no avail. Most likely, it was possible to get on it only during the passage of the mission (as in SA, where CJ had to fly to Liberty). But how - by helicopter or by boat - is anyone's guess, but most likely the second option.
Avery: "Hey Tommy, it's Avery! Now listen, I got me all tied up at the moment and I have a representative of mine needs chaperoning out to the Gator Keys. I'm after some land out that way, so I'm sending someone out to sweeten the deal. Could you do me a favor and make sure he gets there ok? "
Tommy: "Yeah, sure thing Avery. Where'd you want me to pick him up?"
Avery: "He's just finishing some business at the building site. I said you'd pick him up from there."
Tommy: "No problem. See you later, Avery."
Khme! I will apply my knowledge of 10 classes of English. = D
Avery: Hi Tommy! Look, I'm busy as always - I had a few things to do in the Gator Archipelago, but I sent a guy to do the deal instead.
Tommy: Of course Avery. Where can I meet him?
Avery: He's finishing some work at the construction site right now - I told him you'd take him there.
Tommy: Ok, no problem. See you later Avery!
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way, there is something that is possible, then duck is a struggle for a profitable building plot, as Sukk * bus said above, so that legs grow from there. Perhaps these are houses on stilts next to Corteza's yacht (Sorry, real Miami, I don't know very well, and I don't need it for now). So that's it.
Upd.
Hah! Even with my so-called meager concepts in architecture, I have a bad idea of ​​how Avery would build another high-rise on those piles. Will drown the same. A vague idea.
Mine post hundredth. = D
Skkubus
Clearly) Well, I didn't have to write with the translation, I can handle English) But thanks anyway!)
By the way, about this archipelago. Maybe these houses are the remains of the developers' idea. Indeed, on the Weiss beta map, it is clear
that there was no lighthouse then, and in that area on the same beta map some 2 islands are visible (there are such islands in different places on the water). Maybe this is that archipelago (or part of it). Maybe in that area of ​​the lighthouse there was some kind of large connected network of islands, and in the final version only such small houses remained from it (or whatever they call them: D). Well, the lighthouse was already made so that the idea does not kill at all ... :)
DJ_KOT, I fully agree with you. At first, like you, I also assumed that they should be located somewhere in the south of the game world. True, it was not the fishing grounds that pushed me to this idea, but the accumulation of underwater rocks. Then, with the passage of SA, I decided that maybe R * already had an idea to add a mission on a side territory. But in the absence of official information, one has to guess.
By the way, since we're talking about cut missions, do you have any information about the one that links Tommy, Sonny and apartment 3C? Anyway, I would like to know how reliable this information can be. Personally, I came across only one source.
Zmey20009 I
rarely notice and pay attention to such trifles. On the screen, only a shotgun caught my eye.
Skkubus
I also came across only one source with a 3c mission - http://gta.wikia.com/Deleted_Missions
3c mission:
3c was going to be a mission given by Sonny Forelli. It had something to do with Apartment 3c. And was also the only mission given to the protagonist Tommy by Sonny. It is possible that the mission involved buying Apartment 3c, since it was going to be a Save House.
From the context, it can be understood that this was the only mission that was given from Sony Forelli. It is possible that this house was originally intended as "SaveHouse" by Tommy.
My thoughts on the removal of this mission are as follows: I think that at the development stage of R * they did not think much about the characters of the characters (this is confirmed by the changed text of the heroes of the beginning of the game, which remained in Weiss's files). At a later stage in the development of R *, they realized that it was better not to give missions from Sonny at all, because this will underline the character and intentions of Sonny - to throw the substituted Tommy into an unfamiliar city, and then let him get out without any help ... Yes, and the developers have changed SaveHouse, because that house was too dull ... And this is even correct, because for such a city with such an atmosphere, the most suitable option is a hotel on the seashore :) So why R * cut out this mission is quite understandable ... :)) Well, as a secret - they made an interior with a chainsaw from a fragment of the film "Face with scar ",
To this confirmation, the changed text of the heroes of the beginning of the game, which remained in the Weiss files,
I always follow the topic, and for some reason no one laid out this text or mentioned it
EcLipsE [temporarily unavailable]
Here you can read in more detail (if good with English): http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/561641-grand-theft-auto-vice-city/faqs/40734 or use a translator :)
HTX1. The Introduction:
For starters here's an slightly different version of the opening movie text
(taken from where Ken picks up Tommy at the Airport):
Ken: "Hey, hey, guys! It's, uh, Ken Rosenberg here! Hey! Heh, heh , hey,
great, hey! Well, uh, I'm gonna drive you guys to the meet, okay? Now,
I've talked to the suppliers and they are very, huh-ha, keen to start a
business relationship, so , uh, if all goes well, we should, uh, be
doing very nicely for ourselves, which is, y'know ... good .. Okay, so.
They're brothers, okay. One operates the uh, the business, and the
other one does the flying. Now they operate out of Mexico, They own a
farm in Panama. Okay, all right, listen - you guys, when we get there
should I stay in the car, or do you guys want me to come in with you
guys? "
Tommy:" No. Stay in the car. "
Ken:" You know what, I thought about it, I'm gonna watch the car. "
..... later, at the meet:
Ken:" Ok, that's them in the chopper. All right, here's the deal. They want a
straight exchange on open ground. All right? Ok. Stay tight, let's go.
All right. Take it easy, now. I'm right here. The cars running, baby!
Got it? "
Dealer: "100% pure grade-A Colombian, my friend. The greens?"
Tommy: "Tens and twenties ... used."
..... then, the ambush:
Tommy: "Go on, get out of here! Drive!"
...... back at Ken's office:
Ken: "Screwed! We're screwed! This is soo typical, I poke my head out of the
gutter for one freakin 'second, and fate shovels shit in my face! Well,
screw you! "
Tommy: "Shut your face and quit complaining! You're alive, aren't ya '? Drop
me right up here. Go dump the car, then go get some sleep. I'll drop
by your office tomorrow and we can start sorting this mess out. "
Ken: "OK, that's a good idea, I'll get some sleep. What are you gonna do?"
Tommy: "Make my way back to my hotel, clear my head, and figure this crap
out. OK."
DJ_KOT 10/31/12 9:42 PM
Uh-huh. Differences then I see they certainly are. Not strong but nonetheless. The guys are more harsh with each other and the dialogues themselves in the finale look shorter than here. Ken doesn't curse Tommy right there. Tommy doesn't shut Ken right up. In short, it's clear what I mean.
kerm68
These scans in higher resolution are on Guranga, and from other magazines too.
http://www.gouranga.com/nf-scans-gtavc-01.htm
DJ_KOT 10/30/12 17:54
Maybe unpublished beta screenshots will be posted.
I read somewhere that a prison was being made on the site of a vacant lot near a car dealership, and one of the missions was to get Phil Cassidy out of this prison. Does anyone know more about this?
TommyAssassin
I read somewhere that on the site of a vacant lot near a car dealership they made a prison, and one of the missions was to get Phil Cassidy out of this prison.
Personally, this is the first time I hear about this ... :) Although that wasteland at the car dealership is clearly too large, maybe R * had plans to do something in that place ...)
SA_Pr0
Maybe unpublished beta screenshots will be posted.
Let's hope. :))
yes, finally they pull something with this, and with questions and with screenshots, I can’t wait any longer ahaha
how the game will be released, I’m waiting for all this
about the wasteland, too, for the first time I hear it, but I don’t think that there should be something, at least emptiness that confirms my thought a little
I also hear about the wasteland for the first time, but I don’t think that there should be something, at least
on the lod. Now I checked it - in the lods there is just a wasteland. But there is something more interesting
1. There is no stadium. It looks like it was added at the very last moment
2. A completely different airport. It is much larger and there is no military base. There is a lod of the old tower
3. There is no third ship in the docks (the one at the entrance)
Zmey20009
Interesting screen! And through what program can you watch LODs?)
By the way, there seems to be something visible in that place of the wasteland, it looks like the foundation of some building ... Or am I mistaken?
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aa ... that's it, I understand)) this is that car dealership with a small area ..: D
You can also see that there is no landfill ...)
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Yes, there is a landfill) Something I am inattentive, I thought everything was an airport ...: D
DJ_KOT
And through which program can you watch LODs?
Through Moo Mapper or Med
By the way, something seems to be visible in that place of the wasteland, it looks like the foundation of some building ... Or am I mistaken?) Are you mistaken
, this is the lod of the salon itself. Here's a closer
look : It is good to see that the runway does not turn, but continues on. It is not clear why it was necessary to shorten the airport so much? The military base could be placed somewhere near the docks
I read somewhere that a prison was being made on the site of a vacant lot at a car dealership, and one of the missions was to get Phil Cassidy out of this prison.
I personally, too, have never heard about the prison, as well as about the mission associated with saving Phil. On GTA.Vika, there seemed to be no mention of her. But this wasteland definitely had to be used somehow. By the way, what is in its place in VCS?
I am also still interested in the pipe that is located between Havana and the airport. It seems that with the help of the teleport I even managed to get inside and wander. But what is its purpose, it is a mystery to me.
I am also still interested in the pipe that is located between Havana and the airport. It seems that with the help of the teleport I even managed to get inside and wander. But what is its purpose, it is a mystery to me.
Duck, but here, you know, it is quite possible that the rockstar was planned to make a sewer under the city, well, this is the most obvious.