Yarovaya package.

Veenine wrote: I did not set the USA as an example. Nevertheless, at least their presidents are changing.
It's not about the USA, but how it works, let’s take an example from the USA. And what if their president is changing? And in China it is not.

RedSkyAngel
The reason above was written by Sharikov and quite extensively.

RedSkyAngel
SpoilerThis law is directly directed against people who are fighting the current bandit government, i.e. extremists - terrorists, his goal is to exterminate them, squeeze them for any reason, and since it can be any of us, he must work globally, the goal is not protection, but the extermination of indignation and dissent. Now, yes, there is something like that, but globally it does not work, it takes a lot of time, especially in the direction of persons of interest to the state - they knock out information, interrogations, spread rot if there is nothing to show.
Well, SHARIKOV also says the case, the treasury is emptying, the gold reserves are running out, they threaten to end next year, the budget and certain pockets need to be replenished, they have also become scarce, i.e. one less - from oil, gas, and other resources, which means they will make more others - taxes, prices, laws, moreover, from their own citizens. This is a cut in its pure form, legalized at that. And as I understand it, nothing comes of them there, there is no such equipment even in the GREAT USA, an attempt to make their own cheburnet and total surveillance of citizens of particular interest, they fail. But our money, in attempts, still saws.

Nevoeiro
It's not about the USA, but how it
works. Works well.

And what if their president is changing?
If he sucks, it's logical to change him, isn't it?

And in China it does not change.
It actually changes.

RedSkyAngel
Do you think you're not under the hood now?
We are not anonymous, but the services do not store all of our data and not for such a long period.

This has long been all there, only now it will be legalized.
Legalizing the violation of our rights is not good at all. A controversial, limited and secret technique should not be allowed to be turned into an official ubiquitous instrument.

And how do you know if the goal is achievable or not?
This is not my opinion, but specialists.
SpoilerDoes the Yarovaya package help fight terrorism on the Internet

? This is a very controversial issue. Mass collection and processing of information can really help identify potential terrorists and extremists. A similar metadata analysis program in the United States, according to the FBI, CIA and NSA, did help prevent many terrorist attacks, although it was heavily criticized after the revelations of Edward Snowden. However, the Americans spent billions of dollars on its implementation, and also compensated for the costs of participating Internet companies, including Google, Facebook and Microsoft.

On the other hand, encrypted traffic is expanding all over the world, and Russia is no exception. The head of Roskomnadzor, Alexander Zharov, estimates its share at 15-20 percent, but the same Google claims that in Russia, the encrypted HTTPS protocol accounts for up to 81 percent of traffic, and for Rostelecom this figure is 50 percent.

When using HTTPS, all sent materials are visible to the Internet service, for example, the VKontakte administration, but are not available to the provider. In some cases, you can read the correspondence only while the Internet session is in progress, that is, the user is online. As soon as the session ends, the encryption key is automatically deleted. This makes storing data meaningless, because now they still cannot be decrypted.

At the same time, terrorists prefer to use secure services, including the Telegram messenger. There are information channels of the Islamic State terrorist group, banned in Russia, through which extremist ideas are propagated and new fighters are recruited. According to reports, it is not yet possible to hack Telegram, and its founder, Pavel Durov, strongly opposes cooperation with the special services.

WhatsApp and Viber messengers, which have recently enabled end-to-end encryption, also do not give out user data, and programs such as FireChat can do without the standard networks of operators when sending messages. All these companies, most likely, will simply ignore notices about millions of fines for non-compliance with Russian legislation, because they are registered in other countries and, with the exception of Viber, do not have servers in Russia. Facebook will do the same, storing the data of Russians on its European and American servers. - https://lenta.ru/articles/2016/06/24/yarovayalal
We are talking about safety, about human lives The
probability of becoming a victim of a terrorist attack is incomparably lower than the probability of getting into an accident or becoming a victim of other crimes.

But no, you have rested your horns on the history of your browser.
What does "browser history" have to do with it? Speech in general about all sent and received data, complete transparency of correspondence, that's all.

I believe in this more than in the fact that the state is interested in our correspondence, etc.
The correspondence of the average Vasya Pupkin, of course, is not interesting to anyone. But the very fact of free access to data will certainly be abused against unwanted persons. Moreover, any of us can become objectionable, for this it is not necessary to be an extremist or an oppositionist, some post with the disapproval of the authorities or even the church is enough.

Veenine wrote:
But the very fact of free access to data will certainly be abused against unwanted persons. Moreover, any of us can become objectionable, for this it is not necessary to be an extremist or an oppositionist, some post with the disapproval of the authorities or even the church is enough.
They have already left for you. You are our wise.

I warn you: All passwords, logins and data of yours and your sites will be stored by the provider. BUT! Only if the sites are from Russia.
The penalty will not apply for overseas sites.
Foreign Encryption is your trump card. Inc. Apple will not disclose encryption. Mail.Ru will reveal encryption. Feel the difference.
Yahoo.com and Flickr do not contain Russian and are not widely used in Russia. B Conclusion: you are confidential.
There are also VPNs and proxies, but I think that's unnecessary. This is necessary to bypass the locks no more.
PS I use Protonmail mail and I advise you. The Swiss know a lot about encryption. Anonymity is guaranteed.
Yahoo mail is also good with encryption.

In a word, you can definitely say that the authorities are assholes. They passed the law in one party, you all know its name. Anyone who understands at least a little on the net was against it. And most companies negatively assessed this law, but with all the protests they signed it, and they call it anti-terrorist, but it is related to it like a cat with sour cream. Data storage is bad, but they want encryption algorithms. Well, supposedly so nonsense, in any online games there is a chat and all this is stored, I think that this is needed to oust someone, they do not understand who, but it's too lamentable. The law is too crappy to be adopted at all, the costs are too high and the result is nothing, The funny thing is that it was adopted, in 2018 everything will be really bad

I don't know how this could have been invented, they clearly want to make slaves out of the people, so that they can completely control them, they have little power.

that people have promoted it more than it's worth. There will be no surveillance .... storing information does not mean that it will be read. And part of the information was already stored, mb just not in that amount

stalker7162534 I
'm already getting ready to hide in the forest.

Veenine wrote:
Works well.
So what's stopping you from creating such a commission or something like that? How many balobols from the same opposition have created something efficient and truly workers, one chatter no more.
Veenine wrote:
But the very fact of free access to data will certainly be abused against unwanted persons. Moreover, any of us can become objectionable, for this it is not necessary to be an extremist or an oppositionist, some post with the disapproval of the authorities or even the church is enough.
This is used even without official permission, law or any other rights.

Glory to the Great Pu !!!

Nevoeiro How
many balobols from the same opposition have created something efficient and truly workers, one chatter no more.
This is a very useful remark. The opposition is too busy exposing the authorities, but at the same time it does nothing useful itself.

This is used even without official permission, law or any other rights.
But after all, not all data was stored and, moreover, not for so long. And it is not a fact that the keys to access encrypted data were provided earlier. In short, one way or another, the impudence and capabilities of the special services will increase with the adoption of this law.

I have read this package (unlike many kritegs) and was satisfied. The fact that the Liberahs are not comfortable is their problem. The plebeians are doing garbage under the guise of the ideals of "freedom of speech", they cut off the oxygen - they immediately cackled, this is normal. We can say that it is even funny to watch this.

Children as well as the opposition and the need ... to make power at least sometimes look at you ...
In addition, the opposition has never been in power, to have a real opportunity to begin to change something in your community ...
And from you just decided to do something, like a shop, a fence ... that finally ceases to be an eyesore ...

Veenine wrote:
But not all data was simply stored, and even so for so long. And it’s not a fact that keys for access to encrypted data were provided earlier. In short, one way or another, the impudence and capabilities of the special services will increase with the adoption of this law.
Perhaps so, and it is possible that all this is the special services, and the same access to encrypted data.

Playshner
Uncle, in this case, she is not a useful phenomenon for the people, forcing the authorities to look back at themselves and at the same time not doing shit, this is not even bad money making.
And real power is not needed that at least to start changing something in society, it is enough to start helping people within the framework of the law. Thus, to show how these laws can work. Yes, the creation of the same INDEPENDENT trade unions for ordinary workers. And the protection of workers' rights, honestly and legally. But here, after all, you need to work, that the opposition does not want to do it at all, it is easier to pop and poke fingers. In this case, he will receive money for this. Or it is stupid to reach the trough and everything will go all over again.

Nevoeiro wrote: How
many balobols from the same opposition have created something sensible
? What you do not know is the merit of the imperious TV. They only tell you what is beneficial to the authorities. I could have guessed it myself.

Playshner wrote:
Also, the opposition has never been in power to have a REAL opportunity to start changing something in your society ...
totally agree. And note how correctly formulated: a real opportunity to change in society. Not demagogic - they do nothing (one might think that the opposition is a kind of Emeli lying on the stove).

Nevoeiro wrote:
no shit, it's not even bad money making.
Well, teach me how to get it - to do nothing and get paid for it.
(I will not discuss the rest, because it is clear that you do not own the topic, but I’m too lazy to explain to you from the beginning, and besides, you will start to object to everything in order to amuse your PCS)

Nevoeiro is
more stupid to answer than YOU, kid ... it is heavy ... the
spring package is - RUSSIANEN, RIP UNDER THE STORE ... !!!

Playshner
In a number of countries (mostly Western, since they are less conservative), the opposition is either already an alternative replacement for the current government, or is on this path and is trying not to stray from it. There is a real struggle for power, since the competitive element is encouraged and welcomed in countries of the developed capitalist type.
In my homeland, the opposition is a certain set of fictitious political organizations, leeching into the body of the state apparatus. I don't know if this is really so or not, but it looks very similar.
The leaders of the opposition parties are far from stupid - they have their own warm place in the State Duma or the Federation Council, which allows them in life to receive, in principle, all the same privileges and benefits as representatives of the leading faction, but in their case this is not accompanied by the fact the burden of responsibility that real power bears.