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Int0xicate 02.09.19 08:39 pm

Disappointment in modern games.

Surely you also fell for the idea that now in the games is a disappointment. But is it from the point of the gaming industry, or it is the perception of the player, really?
I'm wildly nostalgic for the old games somewhere until the end of 2012. Any new game I have is in my head to compare with the old. He began to play computer games in the early 2000-ies.
And I do not know: either I'm stupid or do not go skiing. Because to live in the past and look back - no good. You need to live in the present. But to me, these modern games don't like me, I have some cons I see. I forcibly can't bring myself to like a certain game. That's the question.
Because for me, games are the only thing I have much interest in. Of course, I'm not some nerd who plays 24/7. Play in moderation, work and earn. But that was the feeling before, when waiting for the announcement and release of a game that you wildly liked, and waited a long time for her sleep and see her in her sleep. Now no such feeling.
So in General, it's a problem that I don't like new games and I live of old, or indeed the game is now wrong?
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Rolemanser 02.09.19

Int0xicate
Before the grass was greener, the sky is blue and the girls wore short skirts and not jeans. Another time you had other interests, remember childhood friends with whom you were thick as thieves, grown up, scattered and all different interests became. Face it, you just stood up to adults =)

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Domoi 02.09.19

You're absolutely right...

Almost all games now are shit, especially AAA projects.

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Anderby 02.09.19

Are you attached to the time. It's like those people who, instead of a new movie for the thousandth time reviewing anything Soviet. Old always seems warmer, better. Only if you take a sober look at what it is not. Your monkey brain (for a maximum of twenty years) you won. You lost.

I play all my life and know for sure that the game is worse or do not get better. But the people woody, I give up to public foundations (Ko-Ko, adults not playing games) getting old. Firmly attached to their first title. Over time for many comes as a surprise with which they cannot cope. Fuck to live. While you sigh about the past other people enjoy the present. But in ten years you will remember how ten years ago all was well. My mind is playing tricks on me.

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vftor 02.09.19

I once wrote a comment on the blog Progress does not stop: three reasons to upgrade PC games.:
Progress is best when saved the old and added good new. And now adds the new (graphics - at the expense of upgrade and money), but worsens best old (optimization, gameplay) and added the worst (pattern, simplification, the pursuit of effect, primitive gameplay) for the sake of plot and profit. This is not progress but regress.
So, disappointment in modern games because of the setback, and most importantly because of the recourse of people and developers.
If everything is cyclical, then perhaps someday will start and the progress, maybe when I die these developers.

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MunchkiN 616 02.09.19

well, when compared with 12 a year I a special difference do not see. maybe just fashion and trend of re-mastering peck-peck
but remembering the year 2006, when I was listed heavily bombed from the series waiting for me and released Igor 90% of all problems in the perception of the player and his anticipation of the Igors.

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requiemmm 02.09.19

But the game really wrong. Priorities are different and the target audience of the games to sell kids a candy wrapper without the candy and be forced to resort over the next...this initial attitude, in principle, can not produce anything of quality.
Old games seriously lose in graphics, specifically in technology, but lies as a bull a sheep many new projects in terms of role-playing system, replay value, design, provide game opportunities. Definitely before the sky was brighter and the grass greener, but this does not explain the fact that many of the pieces of the old games were simply discarded, but nothing in return, we as players, never received. Enemies are complete idiots, the NPC is also full of idiots with looped in a circle a pair of replicas or even without them, the gaming world has become hrafnista, but smaller and more primitive, no you here of multi-tiered levels with a bunch of secrets, history tends to blunt meat in the arenas, dialog system...about the dead or good or no, circle of shame with three meaningless options it sucks. Online climb without soap everywhere, but the problem is not even that. The problem is that half of the players are dumber than the dumbest bot and they are forced to play and interact. Here with Russian idiot hell agree, and if he is foreign then all carcasses light-drain. And there, Pvp is the only goal any player, blah-blah, the single for autistic...walk into any of the Pvp project, pysch-ololo pysch ran in the red shoot without the brain at all - most of the time in the top. Such a skill...anyone can move a mouse and press two buttons already in the upper half of the list the results. You only know who else. Cats chtol play, while the owner is at work?
Sometimes, very rarely, something decent comes out, but in General every year to find something playable new games harder and harder...but with the old no problem at all. The problem with the age, I will not live long enough to complete all that is planned:)

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Int0xicate 02.09.19

requiemmm
In General, the deterioration of the game as such still depends on the worn-out ideas. Previously, in the beginning every game with new gameplay and features has become a cult immediately (Mafia, GTA, CoD, Battlefield, HL, Fallout, and dozens of others) . Because to them it was nothing. Now a million games and most are already heavily again. You just wrote that rarely comes something worthy. This is just a new game, really new, and not processing the other. For modern games increasingly difficult to find an original concept, it is necessary to sweat a lot to come up with their own.
But to the hackneyed theme can be used. What can I say, if you like a certain concept of the game, you'll be playing it.
I think it is likely the case in relation to the games. It used to be something of a certain art. The developers had other goals in terms of product development. The developers worked not for money (worked for them, of course, but it was not a priority), and the players and reputation. The desire to stand out and establish itself on the positive side. In the games, so was spirituality. And now the developers are working only for money and one wish to rivet a bunch of the same games (now also unchanged, for the progress and optimization harder). Of course I won't speak for all studios. There are suitable developers. For example Rocksteady who did Batman or Valve, which games very rarely, but they are high quality and original. And sacash watered them, saying that they are sitting around doing nothing, give us HL 3! But they don't want to turn into the conveyor, which now zapolonili the entire industry.

PS: write Here about adaptation. Well. Here is an example. Remaster games 2007 CoD MW 1. Stress - remaster! That is, the game needs to be like the original without major changes. What do I see? Skins, cases, there is no normal dedicated servers in numerous foreign countries. I just threw this game because the original was loved for the simplicity without any vistapanel, which, by the way, in those days there was not, because the industry is not sick, and a great dedicated server. With MW 2, I went to this game with this Avineon or whatever it is called where on the map I run three cripples, and there is no dynamics.
And how to me to adapt to this?
My favorite Battle, thank God, while a leased line is present. But there is the technology of game does not allow to implement cloud servers.

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Anderby 02.09.19

requiemmm

In anything other than WRPG and online shooters to play tried?

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Sonic34 02.09.19

New games new they just Agree with Anderby.
And of course I came back again in the 98th over again would get pleasure from the gaming world. Again working out the old games on different platforms.

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requiemmm 02.09.19

In anything other than WRPG and online shooters to play tried?
Itself. And sometimes I even find something edible in that mountain of trash that brings down the game making every year. About one game, maybe two. Then I play them every day, diluting every MMO-shnym stuff, enough at least for something. Then you take something old, pass, if at all possible.
And so that you can play new games and steam, this does not happen. Or they were traveling Kut-Kut via e-e and is itself in the plays themselves, or curve to the console port, or is there Rhianna Pratchett with her black transvestite with a heavy fate, Ali is still a vyser child from a good family, podsedice old Pro once great Studio. Well, there is industry, there is as lucky.

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Gauguin 02.09.19

Objectively, the game is getting better. It is a very young art form that too few of years to degrade, yet it is only developing.

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Lightninggg 02.09.19

Just wanted to say that I fully support Anderby. Little can be added.

If modern games don't like, then for you it was probably just a passing fancy in his childhood/adolescence, and now this is interesting, because there are other things to do. Or you just can't understand why you want the game exactly how you want them to take whether you need just emotions and impressions of what is happening, or quality of passing. The hobby need to realize, and not just expect that the button will be fun.

Overall the game is getting better. Other and can not be with the development of technology.
(Some worse, Yes, but it's not a trend, it is certain that developers for some reason are unable.)
The only thing - now, few experiments and invents something new. I hope this is a temporary phenomenon.

p.s. Suggest to buy Nintendo Switch. Rumor has it that games are treated there from all troubles.

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A.Soldier of Light 02.09.19

Int0xicate wrote:
I'm wildly nostalgic for the old games somewhere until the end of 2012
In five years the same will be said about 2018, lol ^_^
Newpage now old already 2012y year call )

Int0xicate wrote:
Disappointment in modern games
And in the principles on which is based gaming industry. For example, when there is a new project, but it can't complete because of disagreements between employees, underfunding or other reasons, and a game which would look decent on the rest, sees the light. For example, a game about the Justice League (wanted to do it, not now, many models were created, the engine, textures, but alas, the bosses have not given the good)...
In my opinion, games should be done according to the dictates of the heart and the flight of the soul, creative mind, not for profit, not to be guided by the profitability of the first part to create a sequel... I basically don't like the whole system of the video game industry. Grafon and money that leads the industry. Stupid capitalism...

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Int0xicate 02.09.19

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
In my opinion, games should be done according to the dictates of the heart and the flight of the soul, creative mind, not for profit, not to be guided by the profitability of the first part to create a sequel... I basically don't like the whole system of the video game industry. Grafon and money that leads the industry. Stupid capitalism...
Here I about it above wrote. Now, the gaming industry is business as usual for earnings. Before the game was something like art, creativity.

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Anderby 02.09.19

Games have always been business addicts. Nothing difficult schedule to draw and clouds of code to write. In the credits is always a lot of dozens of people. And everyone wants to eat.

It is also, incidentally, infantilism to think that food appears in stores, replica in the movie itself is written by the actors, and games are made by enthusiasts.

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Int0xicate 02.09.19

Anderby
Like in a puddle pernul.

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Anderby 02.09.19

Int0xicate

You.

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Int0xicate 02.09.19

Anderby
Robin hood arrows rushing or what? Although see what you write in other places, as well fart in a puddle. Typical Troll with complexes on PG, are immediately visible in the ratio of pros and cons.
In General, good luck to you in raising the plinth of their self-esteem by farting in a puddle upon this wonderful site.

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MagicHero 02.09.19

Int0xicate
Int0xicate wrote:
I'm wildly nostalgic for the old games somewhere until the end of 2012. Any new game I have is in my head to compare with the old. He began to play computer games in the early 2000-ies.
What about the Witcher 3, Far Cry 3, Bioshock Infinite, Divinity: Original Sin II, Dark Souls III, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, Total War: Warhammer 2, etc.
I was just wondering what you there played that all new games are worse?

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RikoChiko 02.09.19

For me, the problem is not that games now are crap, and the fact that every year the good games are fewer leaves.