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yariko.v 13.09.19 10:59 pm

Mankind accelerates the evolution of...

We all know that evolution since the dawn of the Solar system never stopped. For many millions of years under the influence of natural environmental factors there are a lot of organisms flora and fauna.

Now in some countries started to carry out experiments on the combination of genes of different animals with the human genome.

Whether a person is able to accelerate millions of years of evolution?
How do you feel about the experimental production of a hybrid human?
Maybe soon will be a cat-girl?
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ColonelJason 13.09.19

antonrogov
It's true, however, the mentioned examples are rather isolated, special cases of a more General problem: almost total blackout of the mechanisms of natural selection, including sexual. Because of the overabundance of individuals, even the most worthless individual, blindly following the dictates of nature, finds parity-worthless partner for mating, and multiplies doomed to the existence of descendants. About the problems of the degeneration of humanity because of the excessive humanization of society would say even the old man Nietzsche, for which he began to write in the ranks of ideologists of the national-socialist (much to the delight of the latter). In General, the problem has a pretty simple solution, which is in some places quite successfully applied by - state regulation of fertility. You need to introduce a progressive (increasing in proportion to the number of children) property qualifications on the birth of a child, and a substantial part of the sorrowful mind will be eliminated.

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Zamkadysh 13.09.19

Hmm, it is doubtful that it is, rather, the person is not mutated, but the life expectancy of the average humanoid has increased, but evolution has nothing to do with.

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A.Soldier of Light 13.09.19

Masha wrote:
What's wrong with treating people with defects?
And who said that to treat people with defects is a bad thing? 8)
Zamkadysh wrote:
Yes, the life expectancy of the average humanoid has increased, but evolution has nothing to do with.
+1 I agree.

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ColonelJason 13.09.19

Zamkadysh
Zamkadysh wrote:
the person is not mutated
Especially the skin color.

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zdrastE 13.09.19

ColonelJason
blue, blue...

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masha 13.09.19

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
And who said that to treat people with defects is a bad thing?
Why is the human modification deprives the meaning of life?

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antonrogov 13.09.19

ColonelJason
Here you are categorically wrong. That humanity has not degenerated need natural selection and, accordingly, the material for this selection, a lot of material from which to live to childbearing age have only the best members of the species and the best adapted to the environment. Therefore, the birth rate in any case cannot be restricted. And medical care should be limited significantly. Not to give extra opportunity for people with damaged genes to procreate. That is, to treat only disease not related to genetics. Who survived - those worthy who have not survived well, so no luck. All in the wild.

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masha 13.09.19

antonrogov
Life for the sake of existence chtol?

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Gauguin 13.09.19

antonrogov
I hope you are a Troll this biologicheskoi vulgarity, isn't it?

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yariko.v 13.09.19

requiemmm wrote:
And cattewater wrap a couple of pieces, why not? :))) However, in our climate they are probably frostbitten ears in the first winter, these mugs.
Well, it's not such a problem, put your neko in a scarf and hat and neko will tell you arigatou-nya!

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ColonelJason 13.09.19

antonrogov
Natural selection according to the criterion of intelligence for a long time already fucked, so the method is a lot of stuff in this condition of the gene pool will only result in the continued exponential growth of stupidity. And the last is the same genetic disease, as a narrow pelvis, prepyatsviya independent birth. The difficulty at the birth of a local character - the individual is faced with them several times in my life, and we are able quite successfully to overcome them. The weakness of the mind is the companion of man all his life, constantly bringing misery to the media and others. And if the difficulties with the birth and heart defects are hardly to humanity a significant threat in the near future, in the regiment of the sorrowful mind arrive daily by 300,000 people. Ie each month to create a city with the population of Moscow, composed entirely of idiots. Thus, I think, in the first place is to limit the birth rate, thereby reducing to a possible minimum amount of mental non-citizens, and then to carry out prevention of other pathologies. Well, rather, it can be done in parallel-who stirs?

Masha
Life for the sake of existence obtained from the mental cripples whose parents are not able to contain them, and multiply hurl.

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antonrogov 13.09.19

ColonelJason
Natural selection fucked by many criteria. Why among them to highlight the stupidity? And that means blockhead? Low brain volume? Low intelligence? Torpor of humanity is unstoppable. Fairly long lived in a fairly comfortable environment, it is not necessary to solve daily issues of protection from predators, inclement weather, finding food and other things. For everything is already prepared templates. Take it and enjoy it. In addition, people with a high level of intelligence, and particularly the want to reproduce, they are more personal growth. If you limit the birth rate for all the others, humanity will simply die out. The simple rule of high intelligence - low fertility is a natural constraint on the level of intelligence for humanity. Birth control will not be able to increase intelligence. It will only restrict the already limited opportunities for at least some natural selection.
Well, historically, that one intelligence does not go far, someone has physical work to do, and that intellectuals I do not like. As said I do not remember who: If each cook is education who the soup is going to cook?

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vftor 13.09.19

ColonelJason
antonrogov
The so-called Evolution actually has managed global experiment of superior beings on breeding the best breed of man. After the death of each person is screening. Of people (information) with low capabilities (physically, empathy, intellect, Mind) is sent to the archive unnecessary, and with high capabilities, especially of the Mind - modify and reproduce (through generations) in the Earth (reincarnation) or in other systems (4, 5 - dimensional measurements).

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yariko.v 13.09.19

antonrogov wrote:
Fairly long lived in a fairly comfortable environment, it is not necessary to solve daily issues of protection from predators, inclement weather, finding food and other things.
Really... And how the growing population of infected ticks, natural and man-made forest fires, floods. This is not a complete list of current before modern humans pressing questions that humanity would do well to think. The search for food, of course, with the advent of hypermarkets easier, but the quality we offer to the consumer is not always at the proper level. Therefore, the question of food is also the place to be.

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ColonelJason 13.09.19

antonrogov

antonrogov wrote:
Why among them to highlight the stupidity?
Of all the possible genetic diseases it spreads with the greatest speed and promises more problems in the foreseeable future.

antonrogov wrote:
For everything is already prepared templates. Take it and enjoy it.
However, a great number of people continue to live in utter unconsciousness,poverty, self-destruction, bestial attitude to themselves and others (particularly their children), produce violence and lawlessness, form a community of people with slave, degenerative, mythological consciousness. All this, as you know, the result of a modest mind.


antonrogov wrote:
In addition, people with a high level of intelligence, and particularly the want to reproduce, they are more personal growth.
That's not true. Self-development, of course, they are busy (it is not clear why the word you have in quotes) but to have children they do not interfere. They certainly don't multiply by eight individuals, but child free there are not many (recent phenomenon, in my opinion, popular among the people, at best, average intelligence). Can just open wikicu, and start to drive famous scientists and cultural figures - most with children.
On this basis, incorrect and further your argument. Yes, people will cease to multiply at breakneck speed, but it does not Bode extinction. In decent European countries, the people, through awareness and proper social planning, got zero the ratio of mortality/birth rates, and that's fine, as, in addition, the problem of overpopulation also has not been canceled.

antonrogov wrote:
Birth control will not be able to increase intelligence. It will only restrict the already limited opportunities for at least some natural selection.
A limitation of medical care in the early stages of ontogenesis (during pregnancy/childbirth) just lead to the death of a relatively small and neither statistically do not influence the number of women and children, among which could be the individuals much more useful for society than roundnose women with a wide pelvis.
antonrogov wrote:
Well, historically, that one intelligence does not go far, someone has physical work to do
This situation has undergone a very strong change since the industrial revolution - technologization of most processes is enormous. Well, then, nobody is talking about creating an elite society of Einsteins and Feuerbach, talking about how to change the ratio of slabosti to normal people from the current 19: 1 for a more adequate proportions.

yariko.v wrote:
But what about the growing population of infected ticks, natural and man-made forest fires, floods.
Global issues do not relate to the evolutionary development of mankind, since their permissions are not faced by each individual. A person will not be more or less successfully reproduce, depending on what he thinks about the problem of forest fires, therefore, it is not an individual factor of natural selection.

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CpaHblN 4onNk 13.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
What specific company or institution?
ColonelJason You, my friend, is not the case liberast? Well, you never know, could run for pay in the Embassy of SGA... Want to come to Shikhany.

ColonelJason wrote:
And ceased to exist in 1948. Perhaps it is difficult to test in the 70s substance at the site of the organization that for 20 years no longer exists.
No, You're exactly the contrary, my friend, is they always need to spell it out... I wrote a polygon osoaviahima exists from 1927, the year, and that good for nothing socialist did not disappear, on its premises are built NIII NBC. So I don't know how You got there in Your liberalnych circles, and we have at the landfill is still possible to meet rusty signs of the RSFSR OSOAVIAKHIM as they were delivered in 1927 year, so they are, yeah. Even two old barracks on campus have signs OSOAVIAKHIM, there is a mechanized brigade of the rag stores.

ColonelJason wrote:
12-year-old man to arrange 4 letters? Amazing.
First, the 12-year-old man KNOWS he writes and secondly, since You do not know the composition of the formula is also a picture of himsoedineny a branched or unbranched chain, such as knowledge of the current shkoloty not, because to them unnecessarily, is heredity, family tradition, so to speak, well, or a family heirloom.

ColonelJason wrote:
So that anthropologists have found, or you, with their materiel?
Anthropologists have discovered that we have twenty-two years ago, he knew, - they do not serve the Motherland, but only for the money your lazy ass up. But if you platinoi not know how to use or do not have enough basic knowledge to distinguish true state of Affairs from fiction and pseudo-scientific sinsay, it is finally not my problem.

ColonelJason wrote:
By the way, why are you being so lengthy-Frank with respect to their children's intellectual amusements hesitate to call your specific status and achievements in defense of the chemical industry?
For us, unlike You, gag orders are not an empty sound, we are still traveling abroad on vacation specials check. Therefore, report only what we are permitted under the Charter and cannot be used to specify who was in my jurisdiction goals and objectives. Personally, my gag order expires in 2035-m, that is, 15 years after Penza, and we'll talk then, yeah.

ColonelJason wrote:
And then the definition of 37 years of experience of two generations quite fits the situation mom 35 years working as a cleaner in a military town, and now I have time to pick that instrument from the tired hands.
As a Junior researcher of the fourth laboratory of organic chemistry, my mom personally wore full hazmat gear to take 6 mg the newbie in the filled with activated carbon sealed bucket with double walls from one laboratory room to another and place these 6 mg in the craving for further dosing, and fully evacuated the building lab. And so every time six years since the first synthesis of this the newbie my neighbor on the porch ( for beginner he received the Lenin Komsomol prize, RSA). My stepfather, a civilian employee of the NIII NBC, in addition, that was a liquidator at Chernobyl, is also engaged in recycling chembarisov by then the contract with SGA. I then was engaged in tails to novice, do not fall under the Treaty due to strict secrecy until 2004, the year when Russia has officially abandoned further development of this direction - about the last test in the far East the newest, having no analogues in the world of binary weapon, which at that time knocked nearly 20 years, then even the news said.
An anthropologist I? Well, the development of weapons of mass destruction, equally effective for any and all races and ethnic groups, already implies in-depth study of anthropology as the basic discipline that allows you to see through what fisiognomica the specific features of each race as a conglomerate and of the individual ethnic groups as fractions of the conglomerate BOV most effectively hit the target and to what extent. To me personally, these data are sufficient to understand that two and two is four, but for You I can not answer.

ColonelJason wrote:
why are you so modest limit their intellectual experience in just two generations? He said at once: based on the knowledge of my ancestors for 12 million years.... Once you record the asset in its cognitive activities the memory of generations, what little things?
I'd like, but the debt will not allow it - Socrates, you know, my friend, but truth is more expensive, because I say only what I know, the previous generation is not the answer, yeah.

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ColonelJason 13.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
As would say a friend, you probably Voltaire: This is all very interesting, but we must cultivate our garden. See, the meaning of human speech from you a few slip away, try to speak very succinctly to this time you are confused about the amount of text and understand what is required of you: where is the proof? Answer this one question and then move on to the next so as not to get confused.By the way, I will kindly pretend your pathetic use Google" and it is the result of cat run across the keyboard.

CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
and we have at the landfill is still possible to meet rusty signs of the RSFSR OSOAVIAKHIM as they were delivered in 1927 year, so they are, yeah.
This is very eloquently demonstrates the level of your alma-mater.

ColonelJason wrote:
And then the definition of 37 years of experience of two generations quite fits the situation mom 35 years working as a cleaner in a military town, and now I have time to pick that instrument from the tired hands.
CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
As a Junior researcher of the fourth laboratory of organic chemistry, my mom
As the water looked.
CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
therefore I say only what I know, the previous generation is not the answer, yeah.
CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
on the basis of its materiel given 37 years combined experience of two generations of my family in the defense industry, chemical industry, REPEAT:
Rare coherence and consistency of thinking...

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antonrogov 13.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
Of all the possible genetic diseases it spreads with the greatest speed
Whence such data? Do not confuse ignorance and birth defects. The second subject about the same rate regardless of the type of defect, if not prevented to reproduce. You never answered, what is your understanding of blockhead. There is no such medical term.
ColonelJason wrote:
Self-development, of course, they are busy (it is not clear why the word you have in quotes) but to have children they do not interfere.
This topic was a study that says otherwise. I read the news about this a few years ago. People with high intelligence on average fewer children than people with low. To give an example of famous scientists and figures of culture is not entirely correct. How many of these known? A couple of hundred or thousand? And how many people? Again, I research papers, covering hundreds of thousands of people who have more confidence than a sample of 100 people.
ColonelJason wrote:
In decent European countries, the people, through awareness and proper social planning, got zero the ratio of mortality/fertility
They went to zero. Europe is aging and dying. The average birth rate among the white population is less than 2 children per woman. Europe can go to zero only at the expense of the annual importation of millions of migrants. What is happening now. But the problem stupidity this does nothing to solve.
ColonelJason wrote:
among them could be individuals much more useful for society
And could be much less useful. Medicine has not yet learned to determine in the womb, how useful will people in 20 years.
ColonelJason wrote:
This situation has undergone a very strong change since the industrial revolution - technologization of most processes is enormous.
That's what I see we have Tajiks all over this town, does all the mental work to do going. Technologization made unnecessary trades. I really do feel like the ratio of slabosti to normal people is changing.

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ColonelJason 13.09.19

antonrogov
antonrogov wrote:
Whence such data?
If you that the intelligence level of at least 50% determined by genetic factors that of any current psychology textbook. At the moment it is the most common disease, and since the human population is growing exponentially, and he with her.
antonrogov wrote:
Do not confuse ignorance and birth defects.
Of course.
antonrogov wrote:
what is your understanding of blockhead
A low level of intelligence.
antonrogov wrote:
People with high intelligence on average fewer children than people with low.
I exactly said it. Less not mean no.
antonrogov wrote:
Again, I research papers, covering hundreds of thousands of people who have more confidence than a sample of 100 people.
The work of the strife, it would be good to see her. To evaluate the methodology of the calculations. As regards the sample of successful people, I'm not appealing to an absolute and to a relative value, ie how much we think of successful people, 10, 100,1000 most of them are children - a circumstance I'll extrapolate on the total mass of smart people. Of course this technique inductive, and definitely true for my conclusion to be the only one on this basis may not, but don't take it into account is not worth it.
antonrogov wrote:
Europe is aging and dying.
I'm not talking about Europe, I said in decent European countries. In Norway, the higher birth rates of mortality and it is not at the expense of workers, since the latter there a little bit. Overall in Europe, things are bad, Yes.
antonrogov wrote:
That's what I see we have Tajiks all over this town, does all the mental work to do going.
A good half of them - janitors, taxi drivers and sellers in roundabout, but these professions do not long to be the lot of leather bags (we are still on the somewhat distant future hypothesises). And again, I'm not saying that you need to create a society of liposuction-intellectuals. You need to stop the impending slaboszewski collapse.

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A.Soldier of Light 13.09.19

Masha wrote:
Why is the human modification deprives the meaning of life?
I didn't say that ) actually you have an interesting theory, I would like to know the answer to what it would...
antonrogov wrote:
That humanity has not degenerated need natural selection and, accordingly, the material for this selection, a lot of material from which to live to childbearing age have only the best members of the species and the best adapted to the environment. Therefore, the birth rate in any case cannot be restricted. And medical care should be limited significantly. Not to give extra opportunity for people with damaged genes to procreate.
A rational approach, but there are those that would be willing to endlessly argue with that approach 8) Well as human rights, equality, ethics...
1) the best adapted to the environment – in the modern city there is no problems for survival among the benefits of civilization. Even if the person did not, he still has a chance to live then a lot depends on the particular state. Therefore, speaking about the fittest, who is meant??? Homeless people are well able to adapt, being deprived of much ;] They are an example of those the fit? )
2) If we are talking about genes, about the bad genes that are not needed for humanity, which should be removed from the clan, why, in principle, then, to allow people with posiedzenie genes to have children? Does make sense just would not be right to limit the birth rate by banning people with left-wing genes to have children? )
antonrogov wrote:
Fairly long lived in a fairly comfortable environment, it is not necessary to solve daily issues of protection from predators, inclement weather, finding food and other things.
Exactly. What nafig then natural selection? &) Genetics allows us to know before the birth of a lot about the child, the next step is (logical) modification of genes to a child with normal genes...