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Stevenson 08.12.20 10:04 pm

PES 13 vs. FIFA 13 (FIFA 13)

I have a friend. He's only played one footy in his life. It's a dog 12. Yes, yes! It's not a MISS12 typo. I recently had an argument with him. What's better?
To put it mildly, it was not successful.... Grug simply flatly refused to accept any comments, criticism of the PES.
Soon I brought him PES and FIFU starting with the 10th part. Imagine what his surprise was!
Having played in the 10th and 11th parts of FIFA and PES, and then in the 12th parts he noticed differences from the 11th, only fifa.
This proves once again that FIFA does not stand still like PES.
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fcsm_ultras 08.12.20

ARHAT86
there's a blunt animation. that's important.

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parazels83 08.12.20

For 10 days now, I've been playing FIFA 12 every night. I want to get used to the game even before receiving the full version, which has already ordered in the online store. I play at the level of difficulty professional, so far has not won a single match. Defeats and draws do not upset me; frustrating is how the computer achieves victories.

In the rhythm of FIFA 12, it is more like handball or basketball than football. That is, if one team intercepted the ball, it does not miss it until it brings the matter to the shot on goal.
Marseille's uns missing forwards lead 1-3 defenders with striking ease and speed. And they have enough strength, and technique, and the position choose perfectly. The computer deals only 2 types of shots on the goal:
1) After the corner/flank canopy
2) From 2 meters to an empty gate
That's it. No punches from the middle distance, no distance. Most of the "attacks" of the computer are built according to the scheme: he edged the team - gave a pass to the forward in front of an empty gate. I didn't notice any other interesting combinations (and combinations in general) either at Marseille, Borussia Dortmund or Arsenal. Amazing stereotype!
And why do you need some, it is ridiculous to say, "combinations" if the forward with the ball and so freely and easily beats all the defenders without the ball!
The second floor does not work at all, the defenders steadily "forget" computer attackers in 3-4 meters from the empty gate ...

Nevertheless, I am almost used to such virtual football, but yesterday I decided to play similar matches in the benchmark PES 2011.

Oh, man, the difference is huge, honestly!
In PES 2011, no forward could run away from defenders, there it is physically impossible, the player with the ball a priori runs slower. Therefore, more attention is paid to over-grazing, non-standard solutions.
In PES 2011, the forward can only rarely beat 1-2 defenders, after which the attack still "floods" and has to get rid of the ball.
In PES 2011 you can feel the hardness of the ball (try - catch it), the ball rolls a little faster and sharper than in FIFA 2012.
In PES 2011 the graphics are good, but discreet. The players during the match look very voluminous and realistic.

Of course, PES 2011 has archaic flaws (confusion with switching players, frequent offside, stupid selection of the ball at the sideline), but all these are small things compared to the overall development of the gameplay. Balance, you know, the GAME's BALANCE is perfectly matched.
In PES 2011 I didn't beat Marseille (2-2), but I admire the virtual intelligence of the computer. The goals were really smart and literate, without cheating.

P.S.IMHO PES 2012 is worse than FIFA 2012, and the 13th part I haven't really compared yet.

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D.R.O.G.B.A 08.12.20

parazels83
And here Fifa 12 ? For this game there is a separate forum - there and describe your impressions.

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RomaN Alexandrovich 08.12.20

FIFA 13 - Announced recruitment to the club pros "Kiev FC Kyev" for all positions

The team has a great atmosphere, there is a backbone of 4 people who play constantly.

The main criterion for the game is frequent online and stability in the game. We play for fun and without nerves! Nervous personalities please do not bother)

The timing of the games is different. On weekdays and any time on weekends.

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dspro 08.12.20

He played IN the 2013 PES demo, played in the FIFA 13 demo. Bought a FIFA 13 license. I'm not a fan of any series, just buy the best game. This year it's Fifa 13. Loved before Pes 5, but the current one is a pale shadow of himself. It's beautiful repetitions, and the downsides are everything else. How it can be called a simulator I do not understand.

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Tar1k91 08.12.20

dspro
Just act on this principle, in the 13th Fifa career amused, in PeS does not change since 2010 tired of how to hae the same..... The only big negative of Fifa is that I was not loaded on the license of my career after the first season well, do not pi ... I don't know what to do.

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ARHAT86 08.12.20

fcsm_ultras
How to understand it? -)))

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ARHAT86 08.12.20

dspro
It's a matter of taste. For example, I like the DOG and for me it is more like football.

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ARHAT86 08.12.20

parazels83
PS 2011 is much lighter THAN PSA 2012. I set 11 PS and in the first match I just tore Real Madrid (4-1) and at the highest level of difficulty!!! And in THE PCE 12 comp yanked me specifically and in attack and defense. Try THE PS13 - it's symbiosis 11 and 12 versions.

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parazels83 08.12.20

ARHAT86
Could be. In any case, there are no easy matches in online matches. too many badger-real-cheaters.
PES 2012 is terrible. Shame on the Konamis.

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parazels83 08.12.20

D.R.O.G.B.A
You are right, man, on my part it is wrong to discuss PES 2011 and FIFA 2012 in this topic.

I suggest that I consider my comments as a kind of retrospective, progress and regression of the series as a whole.

The FIFA 2013 Demo liked it, but did not notice any fundamental improvements to ai.
But PES 2013 seemed just hypertactical. Celebration of tactics! Already for this, the Japanese can be kissed everywhere ...

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fcsm_ultras 08.12.20

ARHAT86
Important

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Prividenie 08.12.20

ARHAT86
PES 12? A PES fan who snoused and argued that PES didn't really score from afar, said that PES is not scripted ... I learned this shot in PES 11 and oh wonder, I set PES 12 and scored 3 of those goals in half an hour...
13 PES did not see and I will not argue about it...
If PES this year is symbiosis 11-12, then I don't even want to watch it...

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ARHAT86 08.12.20

Prividenie
Dear so you are not on the most difficult level to play. The most difficult one has to open by typing "certain" number of points

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SkyGame 08.12.20

I'm going to have to play both games, and I'm going to have to play both games this year.

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ARHAT86 08.12.20

Wtcc
NBA 2K13 buy.

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Vavila163 08.12.20

ARHAT86
And why in general the levels of complexity in such games? there is such an expression - esports players play online with real people on the lyceum, and nerds and ordinary school gamers with a computer on a pirate....

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parazels83 08.12.20

I play FIFA (license, by the way!), and I can't understand whether I'm stupid or a game...

It's more of a football simulation than a simulator.

Is it possible to call a simulator a game in which the left forward is able to circle 4 defenders and not score in an empty goal? However, after several attempts, he still scores a goal from 1 meter.
MOST goals the computer scores from 1 meter. Simulator!

The computer with inhuman accuracy calculates (and blocks) all the vectors of attack, always the first picks up the rebounded ball ...

The computer regularly blocks passes, although it is almost impossible to do this manually...

It is difficult to even approach a computer player (owning a ball!) to press or select the ball, even from the back. That is, the ball does not prevent him from "flogging over the field" like a butterfly ...

Very rarely gives inaccurate passes, mostly near the sideline.

For the whole match the computer manages never! Don't foul! Simulator!

It is impossible to take the horse ball with your chest, to lower it to the ground, to pass.

The computer easily "takes out" the ball from under your feet even if your football player has his body covered, although it is almost impossible to do it manually.

Due to the excessive emphasis on dribbling, the game in principle does not need tactics. In fact, FIFA's tactics exist "for a tick."

And here's a link to the review confirming my opinion http://itc.ua/articles/obzor-fifa-13/


For some reason, PES 11 and PES 13 do not have these drawbacks.

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Tar1k91 08.12.20

parazels83
The bigger challenge the game throws the more steeply, what's the fun then to win by 5-0?

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Tar1k91 08.12.20

Vavila163
Cybersports)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))