Fair pvp. Poll (Diablo 2)
Today, with some regularity, tournaments are held according to the rules of fair pvp with prize rewards for the winners.But there are not as many people willing to participate in the tournament as we would like. In this regard, a poll is being conducted in this topic, literally:
"What prevents me from registering and participating in the fair pvp tournament?"
Some of the possible answers:
* I don’t have time
* I don’t have fair pvp experience
* Know beforehand that I’ll lose
* I don’t like fair pvp rules
* I would go to tournaments if they were held faster (I don’t like the organization)
* I not interesting because there is no balance between the characters
* I am not happy with the prize pool
* I have suspicions that opponents are using prohibited programs
* My own version
Let me remind you that the "passivity" of players in fair pvp is the player's choice of his tactics of the game, you cannot impose on the player to play aggressively. Each player, creating a character, has already chosen a style of play for himself in advance. And each character class has a different degree of attack / attack capabilities - some are strong in attack, and some in a defensive style. Mana pool also affects.
As long as there are amas in this world, you will play without bo on pg, remember this! Or let the Almighty then make the rune word Call to Faith.
DELETEEND wrote correctly. Anyone who sees a problem in the rules or who has bold ideas (such as guards), a recommendation to implement Wishlist at the next tournament. The org can easily make its own amendments to the rules for one tournament (having warned everyone in advance), and in case of success and the influx of players, changes to the fair rules will be considered. There is no other way. Changing the rules every week just because someone rebuilt the character is such a thing for myself.
Lags interfere from 19:45 to 22:30. Someone en masse comes to the forum and examines gadgets with boys and videos of third-party resources. The Diblo 2 server itself is empty, but it slows down and sags from lags so that at least come in only at night and never again.
In general, for a year I had a war on 3 fronts on the Internet, thanks to a virus. It's like a black hole. I hope my 2 weeks at d3 will be the last in my life. I'm out again, well, until July.
As for me, everything is fine, you can play in terms of rules. The liability is everyone's business, you need to learn to play against such, and in most cases it all depends on the skill of the player himself. As a suggestion, if many people do not like how clean traps play now, forbid them to use ww, let them use dragon claw on c / c, so it becomes possible for the enemy to fly into the traps and at least run out not with 1 hp. (Again, not against everyone, and for example forty, druids)
And the organizers need to bring up the new people. Do a variety of tours where beginners can participate "what is." For example, only magpies, or only miles of charm, or something else to come up with. If 1-2 new people like it, after such tours, there will already be success. Well, it is necessary to cover the tours at least somehow, many do not even know that tournaments are held, not everyone is sitting here or paying attention to the line in the chat.
About bo amok. I don't see any problem doing precast bo amé from a cube, now it is allowed. The same story is with the esek.
You can also make a precast from a cube rabis dru. Or precast from the claws of the guest, because. good claws with DMG are almost impossible to find on pg.
DevilMayCry_AID
DevilMayCry_AID wrote:
And the organizers need to pull up the new people
It is not clear why they need to do this.
You need motivation to be an organizer, but for now there are only drawbacks and reproaches from both the players and the administration.
In addition to chatting on the forum, the current pvp administration has not yet done anything, believing that someone there should do everything on pure enthusiasm and that only they need it, and they are looking after order and are valuable in themselves, and disrespectful to them are prohibited by the rules ( literally).
If there will be motivation or something similar for the organizers, there will be positive movements, with which it will already be possible to think something. In the meantime, there is nothing to think about, just kicking the corpse.
Dobermn
I am addressing you personally. You probably don’t understand how everything works or don’t want to understand and live in an illusory world. Are pessimistic and you personally lose interest in the game, you convey to the players a pessimistic mood that everything is bad here, that no one is doing anything and no one needs anything. Now I will write the obvious things to make it clear. Specifically, fair pvp on our server is a service that is provided to players from players, all existing rules were invented and promoted by players. Since in 2019 there were many incomprehensible situations regarding fair pvp, it was necessary to create a tool for resolving controversial issues in the direction of fair pvp. A fair pvp administrator is just a regulatory tool, NOT just a show-off or pride position. Such a tool was provided to you in 2019, with the appointment of me to this position. And the only way to change something lies in reaching a general agreement to change something in the game, the general cohesion, I repeat once again, - the players. The administration and moderators of fair pvp are always ready to listen to the wishes of the players and make changes if the majority agrees, but based on experience and practice, either everyone is happy with everything, or many are against any innovations. This is about fair pvp. And instead of trolling, butting and writing posts "how bad everything is", you can create topics on the merits and discuss, as well as move in that direction to come to an agreement. The administration and moderators of fair pvp are always ready to listen to the wishes of the players and make changes if the majority agrees, but based on experience and practice, either everyone is happy with everything or many are against any innovations. This is about fair pvp. And instead of trolling, butting and writing posts "how bad everything is", you can create topics on the merits and discuss, and also move in that direction to come to an agreement. The administration and moderators of fair pvp are always ready to listen to the wishes of the players and make changes if the majority agrees, but based on experience and practice, either everyone is happy with everything, or many are against any innovations. This is about fair pvp. And instead of trolling, butting and writing posts "how bad everything is", you can create topics on the merits and discuss, as well as move in that direction to come to an agreement.
This appeal is unlikely to change the understanding of Dobermn, therefore it is addressed to everyone who is interested in the game and fair pvp.
to listen to the wishes of the players and make changes if the majority of
Corydoras agree , we have got used to the opposite over the years. if there are few people in pvp, the consensus is quite real. it would be great. although it's still hard to believe)
Corydoras
Oh, they finally stopped ignoring me, I'm flattered.
Well, if this is the case, then I propose to speak purely on the facts, maybe then something will work out.
Corydoras wrote:
You probably don't understand how everything works or don't want to understand and live in an illusory world.
Judging by the date of registration and the skills of playing Diablo 2 and pvp in general - something you do not understand here, I have a much better understanding of the situation. It's enough just to look at my posts with forecasts on the situation with pvp and how everything was before, including when I took part in the development of this on the server.
Corydoras wrote:
Are pessimistic and you personally lose interest in the game, you convey to the players a pessimistic mood that everything is bad here, that no one is doing anything and no one needs anything.
My attitude towards PG did not change for ten years, it did not prevent me from doing something. Well, I will separately note that I have not lost interest in the game, I play + - also, just in a different place, where the administration's interest in pvp is slightly different.
Regarding the transmission of some kind of negative - this is not so, I have such a simple manner of narration, alas, I always wrote this way, both now and 10 years ago. In addition to this, I do not whine, sketch or criticize just out of boredom, if you pay attention, I always offer solutions, like sharing your opinion and vision is okay.
Corydoras wrote:
that no one does anything and no one needs anything. I will
comment on this separately. Am I wrong? You've been here for two years, what results can be summed up in these two years? It seems to me that they are disappointing. I can say (like any other player) that over the past 2 years everything has been strikingly better. If I am wrong, I am ready to conduct a dialogue with anyone on this topic.
Corydoras wrote:
Specifically, fair pvp on our server is a service that is provided to players from players, all existing rules were invented and promoted by players.
The deepest delusion. Roofing felts from naivety and stupidity, whether from ignorance, or with the aim of passing off wishful thinking.
If the service was as described, the pvp admin, like the modders, would be chosen by the players, and it would obviously not have happened that the person most responsible for this discipline would not understand it at all.
This could end there, because it is already obvious that the service is clearly not from the players, and not particularly for the players, but I will add. Over the past years of observation, all suitable initiatives (including those supported by other players) have been ignored. The promises made by Irknet (automation, site, etc.) were not kept. The method for making some changes is fundamentally wrong, but I will write about this in more detail below.
This is a service from the administration, convenient for the administration to which it allows us to play on its terms, nothing else. Any initiatives that really "from the players and for the players" in my memory were not supported here, everything was carried out in Spartan conditions with sticks in wheels.
I will add that the rules may have been invented by the players long ago, but the automation, the capabilities of the moderators and all other details, again, none of the players chose. Everything is chosen for us, and here the alignment is such that either use the pvp that is agreed by the administration with the buns in the form of automation and moderators, or do not use it and do everything yourself.
Corydoras wrote:
Since in 2019 there were many incomprehensible situations regarding fair pvp, it was necessary to create a tool for resolving controversial issues in the direction of fair pvp. The fair pvp administrator is just a tool for regulation, and NOT just for the position of show-off or pride.
There are a number of issues, ignoring which also led to the fact that everything is bad with pvp now. For example:
1. Why is this tool completely ignorant of the topic at all? How to solve his problems is not clear.
2. it is not very clear what exactly needs to be regulated. There are no pvp and there are no controversial issues either.
3. If your goal is to regulate simply incomprehensible situations, it is not clear why all polls are carried out, which do not change anything, why common ideas and questions are ignored. ignore is not the best settlement tool.
4. why the tool does not listen to the opinion of more experienced people in this matter than itself. or if he listens, then nothing is done.
Simply put, it all boils down to the fact that there is no transparency at all. Neither in the choice, nor in the possibilities, nor in the duties, nor in the powers of the pvp admin, and the modders too. And that's the problem.
Corydoras wrote:
And the only way to change something lies in reaching a general agreement to change something in the game, general cohesion, I repeat once again, - the players
Another illusion / delusion.
I personally agreed with the Aler in a personal message, and he didn’t like them personally, but fortunately he tried to explain what exactly, and some of the rules were changed simply by going to him and explaining that it was necessary. No other players took part in this at all.
Therefore, it is not necessary to make such statements without an idea of ​​the topic about which you are writing.
The majority, it is a herd, is unable to come to a common decision. Decisions are always made in any area either by a group of qualified people or by an elected leader. This is the only way to create better conditions. A large group of people will never agree on anything, but they are able to make a choice of those who decide for them. But for us, alas, Aler makes all the choices, and the words about "support by the majority", "people's choice" and so on are nothing more than an excuse to drown the idea and do nothing (I went through all this and I know what I'm talking about, this is not speculation, which this topic is complete).
And of course there are other ways: to replace you with a more experienced person in this matter, with a different vision for pvp. Who will have an interest in change, and not in a simple performance of duties, which includes the absence of the network for six months and, in general, zero visible activity.
There is no reproach here, just from the outside it looks like it could have been better. And if your task is simply to "settle" and there was nothing to regulate for 2 years - I do not understand why this topic is. The server doesn't need players, only electricity ©.
Corydoras wrote:
And instead of trolling, butting and posting "how bad things are," you can create substantive topics and discuss, and move in that direction to come to an agreement.
All this has happened many times. Everything is passed, the efficiency is approximately equal to zero, for the reason above - the crowd is not able to think objectively.
Well, it’s not for you to tell me about attempts to come to an agreement after total ignorance for two years and this:
I tried to walk without water on the stated facts. If there is a desire to do something not for show, then you can try to answer me in the same spirit, and not with conjectures and incompetent expressions, as was the case above.
And it's worth starting with the provision of a real account under which you are better known, the fashion of sitting with fakes for each specific task, this server did not lead to anything good. People do not perceive nouns, alas. Sacrificing anonymity in favor of the server would be a good start for some kind of change.
Corydoras wrote: you
don’t understand how everything works or don’t want to understand and live in an illusory world.
You seem to be a pvp man and can you look at how you play in order to assess the feasibility of your being in the pvp admin place?