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demon1542 20.07.20 11:05 pm

Impressions of the game. (The Last of Us: Part 2)

Release today! Describe your impressions of the game.
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LOVKIY 27.09.20

We're waiting for the third part about faggots!

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Nurp 27.09.20

The vile, dirty sodomy of The Last of Us: Part II destroyed all the beautiful, kind, bright in The Last of Us.
The series was killed without giving birth.

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koltos17 27.09.20

By the way, I wanted the sequel to be gone. The first part has a story.

But financially the project is very profitable, the sequel was inevitable. Ancharted is over.

The whole problem is bluntly based on the script. By the way, do you know that initially the script of the first part was a complete lag?) Yes, the first draft of the scenario of the flipper of ace was just the usual B-level boevich.
This scenario was rewritten and refined a lot of times, not by one Druckman, but by a man named Bruce Straley. As a result, they were able to write a cool history, just it turned out not immediately.

After an archered 4 Straley quit the dogs, which made me even more afraid to wait for the sequel.

So we got it. The problem is not in the snive-agenda, not in the gameplay with one holding triangle and poking a square on the whole game, and the problem is simply in the script. It feels like they wanted to make a very massive and complex story to keep the whole world shut up as it is necessary to tell stories. But the load was too heavy and not pulled out. Abby's line generally looks like a fanfic on the flipper of ace, with silly plot moves a la boy escaped by boat or go to the hospital on the lower floor or sort out the love triangle Owen, Mel, Abby. It's like watching a sitcom.

Just so you know I'm not a hater. The first part for me is the best storytelling in games ever. It's better not yet. History for me there in general without shoals, and emotionally gives to light many books and movies on similar subjects. A true masterpiece. It's even seven years later (the first time was on release in 2013).

Here decided to parasitize on the plot of the first part and swell a huge story for the sequel, but did not manage to connect normally. It didn't work out well.

It's not an ancharted. Although there in each part of the story was not associated with the previous game, there were just the same characters. Why not in the second part make a whole new story and not pull the cat behind Joel's case in the hospital. Oh, that's how it turned out. And the game has good scenes, but the overall plot does not take out, there are problems. The funny thing is that flashbacks with Joel are the best parts of the game, because the characters have already worked out since the time of the first part and they are immersed. But to work other characters adequately in the second part could not.

But Logvinov can now be proud. The whole lower Internet humiliates the game, and he is a great art critic and understands it more deeply than anyone.

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Todd Howard Buy 27.09.20

Lightninggg
You're just a Sony fanatic, that's what it says.

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number 9 large 27.09.20

Gameplay, graphics, sky-high attention to detail, AI, directing and acting - all in ten. You can't fault it. But here's the plot of shit that even and ragged narrative spoil the overall impression.
Oh, and the final fight is just such a stupid shit of stupid shit that I just started to rust and bomb at the same time. (I wish Drakman a speedy trip to that world)
The soundtrack is still much weaker than the first part.

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caliskan 27.09.20

koltos17
Yes Logvinov probably did not even pass the game as usual, said the most blurry phrases under the slicing of gameplay from the first half of the game and posted on the channel.
The script of course in this part, as clumsily as possible made, I after the cinema thought that it is finally the finale, and there is another piece of gameplay and the history of the great 🤦 ♂️ to me even Ellie was disgusted in the end, like all the characters, straight rejection of some, and Dramman makes me play for them

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Denis Kyokushin 27.09.20

The game was not about Ellie and Joel, but about Abby.
Battles, graphics and music liked, and the plot and Persians - call

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mylovar 27.09.20

Denis Kyokushin
real macho play tanks)

Well, it's 10 out of 10.Realism.Characters behave like people, but neither as heroes of the average games, where we basically save the world and fight the most evil evil. Complex boys constantly write about the figure of Abby. There and shooting range was and the opportunity for special training. They are made at the highest level. And yes, it's amuses, as two kissing women excite the subtle mental organization of real testosterone macho-naturals (read omes).

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Denis Kyokushin 27.09.20

mylovar
I'm not interested in your personal perception of my post, along with your justification for LGBT and feminism in the game.

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koltos17 27.09.20

caliskan
Ellie's got Druckmann done something weird. In the first part she was loved as a cool opposite of the sullen and rude Joel. She tried to see the positive around her as a child, focused on nature, animals, tried to poison jokes, asked Joel whistles, anecdotes, tried to ask him something. She also tried to always be kind to many (gave the toy to the boy Sam). Ellie's behavior basically revealed her as a person and we were attached to her and Joel.

It's called good drama when a character opens up and you delve into it. And surprisingly usually children or teenagers characters irritate with their behavior, but Ellie all loved, it was something for what it is possible to love.

In Part 2, Ellie is already acting strangely from the very first cutscens with the guitar. Joel's talking about the slathers from my room, that he's going to get in the way. Why? She seemed to always be kind to him. Okay, after the guitar gift, it kind of started to behave. Okay, and now she's an adult, more of her life, not just Joel. Girls, boys. She herself was still closed, as if people were afraid, but in general nothing like that. In the first hour of the game it was quite interesting.

It is clear that after the main twist in it must have something to poke and it must change. And so it happened, but... it has become at times dull. I understand her pain, her guilt, and her anger, but sometimes it looks weird. Although basically you don't pay attention to it because you already want to take revenge with Ellie. In fact, everyone was waiting for such badass Ellie, Ellie-kratos from the first trilogy of the year of the thief. I'm joking, of course, but just revenge usually changes something in a person. However, I never understood in the whole game what Ellie wanted to do Druckmann. In principle, he and Dina generally look helpless at the beginning of the game, ambushed, almost died, where is the plan? Strategy? Caution? She and Joel must already learn that under each stone you have to look when you go to the enemy's territory. In fact, I was waiting for a cold-blooded, able to survive Ellie, whom Dina would admire. But in theory, she and Dina look like scared kids all the time. I don't think Ellie worked on the script.

Then she extinguishes all hard, then feels guilty that she has rolled the girl in the position ... Why does she feel guilty? Before that, she didn't care. And she yelled in the room, "I'm fucking kill you." If a person changes, it is necessary to understand why, but here nothing is clear. In fact, Ellie killed that girl while defending herself.

There's no character development at all. Tommy alone for a long time in AWOL, cuts all packs. He has to change there somehow after a carefree life in Jackson. But no! He's just poisoning his wife's necklace stories after we meet him. Oh yes! It's character development, which I'm looking forward to from ND, the company that made TLOU and uncharted 4.

The only scene where Ellie was that Ellie from the first part was a flashback at the museum. I have a feeling that they first removed this part, and then the script of the rest of the game came up. I myself in this flashback on 7 sky with happiness, thought how the game can have such a rating on the metacritic after this scene? I just still game then did not pass, lol) No wonder the fans of this scene the best in the whole game called. It's really very high-quality. And judging by the feelings of the fans and in general all who watched this scene. Joel and Ellie are what Last of Us was. We're attached to them and we want to see them. But for some reason the ND decided not to bet on this)

And the ending with Ellie is generally a nail in the eyes of all the fans. In theory, the saddest end of all possible. And this is with a man who was a bright ray of hope in the first part in this sullen, dirty world. Why treat your favorite characters like that like that? It's going to be a good place to go, it's an adult game, you don't understand. It's realistic. It's not a character that develops here! He just gets in the ass because the creators wanted to, like surprise. Twist for the twist. The script is bad and spits on all the good things that were in the characters in the first part.

As I wrote above from the first scene Ellie behaves like a lout and in many moments remains the same. Dracmann may have really become hated or wanted us to hate. But here's the zacher? I don't know. Create and work out the characters the whole first part, so that millions of fans fall in love with them and so 180 degrees to change them in part 2? I wish the changes were well spelled out to make everyone believe, but no. The script is weak and stupid not to notice it. And I was the only one who wrote about Ellie and Tommy.

Abby's line is even worse in the script. Generally a cheap sitcom of some kind)

I can't believe that Druckman, who scrupulously directed and even re-filmed every scene in the first part, caused many times the death of Joel's daughter (so he tried to achieve the ideal) so approached the second part. And that seems to be so many people-hours spent on the engine, design, graphics, animation. Just a masterpiece in technical terms, but how does it all become irrelevant when the story is empty and so spits on the development of all the characters.

I myself generally believe the sequel is not needed the first part, but since already decided to earn financially, then make a pancake normal. Instead, we decided to make the most voluminous scenario of all ND games and did not pull the burden of responsibility. And it would seem that just make the adventures of Joel and Ellie, let it be the most generic story, whatever, but these two characters are very connected and elaborate in the first part. They just have to put them next to each other and the fans already 10 out of 10 will write on the meta-critic) In fact, you should not even try) But it was necessary to show off a non-trivial story, so that everyone was shocked and understood as "brilliant" history.

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mylovar 27.09.20

Denis Kyokushin
And why should everyone be interested in your subjective opinion, based on complexes and ossified worldview?

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Denis Kyokushin 27.09.20

mylovar
Since when is the condemnation of LGBT and feminism nonsense?

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Hastyman 27.09.20

darkpromo
Give me a game

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Nurp 27.09.20

Denis Kyokushin
time not to spend on passive pederasts, and active too)))
The Great Soviet Encyclopedic Dictionary (BES):
"PEDERASTIA (from Greek. pais, genus p. paidos - boy and erao - love), the same as male homosexuality.
HOMOSEXUALITY, homosexuality (from homo... and lat. sexus - sex), sexual orientation, manifested in erotic attraction mainly or exclusively to persons of their own sex. Homosexuality can be both permanent and temporary, transient. Female homosexuality is also called lesbian love. Along with genetic factors, the formation of homosexuality is influenced by the characteristics of individual development. The total number of homosexuals is 2-4 per cent of the population."

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hitkliv 27.09.20

Hello!
Some, those in pink glasses, do not find anything humiliating in the plot towards people with traditional gender preferences and identity.
But, if we consider both parts of the game in aggregate, it seems that the authors deliberately lead the consumer to the idea that everything is male - secondary, perverted, aggressive, cruel and outlived. And all women's - absolutely, harmoniously, promisingly.
And it is not even a question of gender perception, but rather even a question of genocide on the basis of gender, in relation to men.
In favor of this conclusion speak the following plot twists.
1. Stupid cruel man, kills a little girl Sarah after hearing the order on the radio.
2. Another stupid and short-sighted man (Joyle), can not save her, and begins to be a homeless man, becomes a raider, and creates necessities.
3. Then Joel connects with a strong, sane woman and gets on the "right" rails.
4. At the cost of his life, strong and sane, helps Joyl to be saved and saves the hope of humanity (Ellie) for survival.
5. However, despite all the knowledge, experience and gift of opportunity, the man is not coping. In the end, Ellie has to save Joyla.
6. In the process of rescuing Joyla and therefore, through his fault, the underage Ellie, gets a teenage injury from a pervert-canibal in a group of which, apparently, also only perverts and cannibals. And part-time guess who?
7. The only full-fledged settlement, where harmony, order and sanity reign, is held by the will to guess who?
8. In the end, Joyle still brings Ellie to the cherished goal. However, it does not pass it into the hands of research scientists. There is a separate topic about "researchers". And the authors did not think that killing a single immune for the sake of experiments - stupid?
And why not provide the girl with safety, wait for her adulthood and allow her to make an informed choice. And along the way, she could experience natural, proven ways of transmitting heredity, through pregnancy and childbirth. Under the control of specialists, of course...

In general, Joyle again spoils everything ... And he can't even explain to himself why he's doing it... It all comes down to the fact that about the burnt smuggler sours, and meets the second part of the game dull sheep. Although for him, as a special, everything is explained simply. Namely, I am fulfilling the contract; Contract terms - bring, protect, pass; I, I brought, defended, passed, and then, again defended!
So that's business, and nothing personal. And the fact that his emotions do not intersect with the terms of the contract, it's the ris!

End, first part...
Well, as well as about the second part, ... It's simple... Unscrupulous 2. Pointless and merciless, like a fight between eighth graders at recess. At school.

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gambeat 27.09.20

Finally passed. 30 hours. they say, I'm not against lgbt (it's their business, problems, etc.), but I'm against any propaganda per se. Here she is out of all the crevices as soon as possible. For the entire game met the male 1-2.
In general, Drakman has dispersed in earnest, raises a lot of topics that everyone has, but we do not talk about them, and here everything is clear. At the end of Ellie of course a psychic-miss, it is no longer taken away, it would be better she just left with them or left them alone.
What are the themes:
1. That we always regret what was not once told to the family, and then realize that it is too late;
Violence breeds violence;
The reality is harsh;
4. Compassion has a place to be;
5. Any religious scripture will be distorted by people, it is inevitable.
As a game sequel to the first part, well revenge for cicadas, I think it is strongly over the ears drawn. Like a movie. Hell, this is the best director. Each scene is staged and played as the last time

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koltos17 27.09.20

gambeat
Generally the worst thing you can use in a script is to pull the luggage from the first part story by the ears. Especially to add to the flashback events of the first game of the character, which did not emphasize the moment in the very first part. Yes, I'm talking about the doctor.

Such a cheap and stupid move. Better any new story from the past that no one knows.

And it would be fine to develop, but no, he was shown 5 minutes as he throws mud at his daughter and then he just saved the zebra. Pregnant, too, by the way, right there all pregnant. And this is Nati Dog's game? I just can't believe it when they try to make such accents.

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TehnoBrake 27.09.20

I tried to objectively identify all the pros and cons of the game

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AndSmart 27.09.20

TehnoBrake
I don't quite agree, but not bad in principle, well done.

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pechenkii 27.09.20

Gameplay everything at the highest level, murder, stealth and peace - all and better than the first part. Cruelty is off the scale, nothing like this in games has not seen before and it's a straight gun. The lgbt, as for me, docher and imposed on purpose, burned norms. According to the story at first, everything liked, but then the impression began to deteriorate from the Lezbogovna - the ending tightened imho. In the end, there was a small feeling, as if I was fucked and snuck into the soul) How if you watch a favorite tv series, and it rolls down in the end. And you're sitting there thinking it's normal, but it's still not like that.