Were the Americans on the moon?
Dispense with preliminaries and foreplay.Here is the reason why the Americans could not fabricate the video:
In 2009, the fortieth anniversary of the flight of Apollo 11 automatic interplanetary station LRO executed a special assignment — spent surveying the areas of landings of lunar modules earth expeditions.
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Let's discuss the main arguments of the conspiracy theorists.
The pictures are too many inconsistencies, cocok
Here all the arguments: http://www.skeptik.net/conspir/moonhoax.htm
Radiation belt cocok
This belt starts from 400 to 1300 km depending on longitude. There is a second belt at an altitude of 17,000 km, but it is weaker. Astronauts on Gemini 11 went up to 1300 km, but for some reason didn't die. The Soviet Union launched turtles living around the moon, but they also survived, a miracle probably.
And pachimu the booster of the Saturn 5, the most powerful in history, is no longer used? Kok
The launch of a proton - about $ 70 million. Launch Saturn 5 - 1 billion 200 million dollars. I hope it is clear.
Saturn 5 never existed ahahah
Yeah. The station skayleb, which were raised by this booster is also never existed. And the fact that it was visible from Earth with the naked eye it's nothing.
And I Ani balshe militat? kokk
Question section I'm an idiot. First, Voyager 2 flew over Uranus in 1986, but there is no one more puciato fiction. Galileo went to Jupiter in 1995, but pochemuto there no one else was. And so on. Second, the program was closed due to lack of funding. The cost of the program was 22 billion dollars(the money of those times). It is very much clear that more money nobody will give.
And pachimu not litut right now? You can also slitti huh?
No you can not. Too expensive. And it is unnecessary to explore Mars much more effective.
I like the flag developing Ms. there is no wind.
Imagine for a moment that everything was shot in pavilione. From then indoors the wind? Do not you think that you are a young conspiracy theorist, an idiot? And, as for reason, it is many times spend too much time that I'm not even going to mention it.
And one more thing. In one of the expeditions of an astronaut conducted experiments. He dumped simultaneously from the same height, a feather and a stone. They fell at the same time. It turns out that this forge is required in all Studio air pump? Is this too much?
V-Nine
One ship is not enough, we need more super-heavy rocket, which also needs to be created from scratch.
So the sls and the Falcon heavy for a long time in development. Soon will fly.
V-Nine
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And who will plant a flag in the ground? Who will carry out an experiment of dropping heavy and easily subject in a vacuum? Who will collect on site necessary (and not dostupne) soil samples? Deploy solar panels? Will drill? Sow the spores of bacteria?
While on alien planets stare, and finally its possible to lose. I have invented how the ozone hole to mend - too would benefit.
kile[Natural sick all over the country one such]
So the sls and the Falcon heavy for a long time in development. Soon will fly.
Didn't know that they are on-duty, comparable to the "Saturn 5", and the SLS are even superior. OK, the rockets, so there. The SLS program has already cost $35 billion, each run will cost half a billion. Again, this is the issue of budgets.
Alexfor
Even if all these devices cost a billion dollars (and they are obviously cheaper), the total damage would be somewhere in 1/7 of the budget of the manned lunar program. Of course, it's not all lost AMC, but they are running a total of over two hundred, thus, the performance is quite good. It is important to note that many machines were lost at the start due to failures of launch vehicles. Whether these devices are manned, it would have saved them, but would be the victim. And no one can guarantee 100% reliability themselves manned space vehicles, although they are more reliable AMS, because for the safety of the crew of the vital systems at least duplicated.
And who will plant a flag in the ground?
It is technically possible, but why? And if we need such rituals, then you can easily do: for example, the devices of a series "Luna" delivered to the moon pennants with Soviet symbols.
Who will carry out an experiment of dropping heavy and easily subject in a vacuum?
And why carry out the experience long ago spent on the Ground?
Who will collect on site necessary (and not dostupne) soil samples?
Will drill?
"Luna-24" at the time, produced a soil depth of 2 m. the Astronauts, if you fly now, too, a kilometer to drill will be.
Deploy solar panels?
What?
Sow the spores of bacteria?
Now the opposite of struggling to bring life on earth is a cosmic body, as this will greatly hinder the chemical research and the search for extraterrestrial life. For example, so as not to bring bacteria on the moons of Jupiter, studying his station "Galileo" after the mission drowned in the planet's atmosphere. The same fate will befall "Cassini" to the device is accidentally dropped in the future, Titan or another satellite after mission completion destroyed in the atmosphere of Saturn.
V-Nine
I voosche about those that are refused upon arrival. That immediately Herity all the work. So that the human crew in such cases, much more reliable.
Scattered pennants or stuck a flag and filmed this? Which is better? In one case, proudly broadcasting the achievements of the people in the other proudly announce the advances in technology. What better motivation?
to check whether it's running in the other conditions. And then suddenly we were wrong in the foundations of physics?
Of course. But the Question is what is needed for the geologists. And if I can stop by the hill machine. don't forget that the Mars terrain is not everywhere flat as a table. And where you'll climb, the Rover may not turn up.
Additional. For fast charging. For replacing broken as a result of incident.
This is NASA. We don't mind. And Yes, will still check the effects of the Martian atmosphere on living organisms. And best of all watch it there and not react after a while. And yet people here will be able to do more than that.
Alexfor
I voosche about those that are refused upon arrival. That immediately Herity all the work. So that the human crew in such cases, much more reliable.
Human crew can fix some mistakes on Board, but a manned spacecraft is more expensive, and the risk in this case is not only money, but lives.
Scattered pennants or stuck a flag and filmed this? Which is better?
From a practical point of view — is equally useless.
What better motivation?
Who motivates? Recently, AMC New horizons "only" flew past Pluto, but what was the hype in the society. The space draws attention to itself, not seen the need to arrange a special show with the installation of flags etc. Just to the astronauts on the moon, it was easy to do, and the flights largely had geopolitical implications.
to check whether it's running in the other conditions. And then suddenly we were wrong in the foundations of physics?
Offer the time to start to recheck tested for centuries classical mechanics? And what "other conditions" speech? A vacuum can be created in a laboratory (that is), and g does not matter.
And where you'll climb, the Rover may not turn up.
The Rovers are moving on quite difficult terrain. At the same time, not all landers are doing agile, because it is not always required. For example, in September of the following year, Mars will arrive lander InSight. You have to understand that when they land at a specific point, such apparatus is not stupid studies the properties of several square meters of surface around him, and is engaged in global research:
Spoiler"the Scientific objectives of the InSight program are to:
The study of the geological evolution of terrestrial planets in the solar system such as Mars and Earth, by studying the internal structure and processes occurring in the thickness of Martian soil:
— Define the size, composition and physical state of the planet's core;
— Determination of the thickness and structure of crust;
— Define the composition and structure of the mantle;
— The temperature of the innards of Mars;
The study of the current level of tectonic activity and frequency of meteorite falls:
— The study of power, frequency and geographical distribution of tectonic activity;
— Study of the frequency of falling meteors." — https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSight
Additional. For fast charging. For replacing broken as a result of incident.
Solar panels put as much as you need. Breakage is unlikely.
And Yes, will still check the effects of the Martian atmosphere on living organisms.
Possible. But it can be done without the direct presence.
And best of all watch it there and not react after a while.
During the confrontation of the planets of the signal delay is only a few minutes.
And yet people here will be able to do more than that.
In some ways it is so. But it is possible to move not only toward providing the possibility of a manned flight, but also towards capacity building of automatic machinery. The second seems more realistic, given the progress in electronics and the almost complete lack of it in the field actually flying.
Wing42
I have invented how the ozone hole to mend - too would benefit.
The solution of environmental problems of the Earth and the study/exploration of space are not mutually exclusive tasks. As for the ozone hole, if the main reason for their occurrence is the human impact, over time they will disappear, as the release of CFCs has been greatly restricted. However, those that have already put in the atmosphere will destroy ozone, another half-century.
V-Nine
and can do much more. And including monitoring of crew health during long flights in an isolated vehicle and an isolated community =- all priceless.
Who said anything about practicality in these cases? It would be like to stick the first flag on the mountain top. Useful? Unlikely. But the pride of made - Yes.
And what a boom would be sitting there people? Or people who landed on Mars?
Einstein once was able. What makes you think that now in these areas of physics the open and there is nothing to check?
Yes, but quite complicated for whom? For a person, a couple hills, the Rover has already impassable part. And like all the Rovers go round the crater with a more or less steep? Although person enough to get entangled with the rope. And study the soil layers that are inaccessible borax Rover. In addition, the Rover carries not slisko many devices and not the best solution.
How much for what? For functioning? Completely. But the problem one that of breakage, though unlikely - but happens all the time. Besides do not forget that Mars is farther from the Sun and receive less energy. Wothout handy spare solar battery.
And you can piss on the Sun without direct prisutstviya. But what's the point? If you will visit a n Mars, you can do a bunch of experiments with living organisms. Check out how they can live in the atmosphere, the land, the premises, in the presence of Vozduha, Yes, and everything that comes into my head. While the machine will do only a few hard-coded Poitou. Because it may not on another.
Only it happens every week. Yes, and thank you for reminding me about the delay of the signal.
Americans SCTO there shaytanat rocket dvigatelyami. plasma I think. Only ovot do not invest too much in it. So what is being done. but when will it appear? And Yes, technology is developing and so. But if we make a machine able to fully replace the human - what do we need?
Alexfor
And including monitoring of crew health during long flights in an isolated vehicle and an isolated community =- all priceless.
So it will all be someday, but this information is needed for the colonization of space, and it is still important study. Studies of even nearby celestial bodies with machines, not exhausted, not to mention the deep space where to deliver the person while there is no way.
It would be like to stick the first flag on the mountain top. Useful? Unlikely. But the pride of made - Yes.
I think that the pride event itself. "Sputnik-1" there are no trinkets in the space is not delivered, why less important his mission becomes.
Einstein once was able. What makes you think that now in these areas of physics the open and there is nothing to check?
Quantum and relativistic mechanics did not cancel the validity of the classical in the description of macro-objects moving with speeds much smaller than light.
And like all the Rovers go round the crater with a more or less steep?
The Rovers sent to places that are interesting, but not for a test drive cross.
And study the soil layers that are inaccessible borax Rover.
InSight will take soil samples from a depth of 6 meters, for example.
In addition, the Rover carries not slisko many devices and not the best solution.
On Curiosity carries 10 instruments. The main restrictions on the equipment imposes the available supply of energy, extreme conditions, requirements for the permissible weight of the unit and a limited budget, and not the absence of people on Board. And we must remember that at the manned vehicle a significant proportion of the mass will be in the food supply, life support systems and other necessary for the crew.
But the problem one that of breakage, though unlikely - but happens all the time. Besides do not forget that Mars is farther from the Sun and receive less energy. Wothout handy spare solar battery.
And any apparatus is out of order solar panels? I can think only of station "Mir" and the ISS. As for Mars, then the solar energy is sufficient, although on the same Curiosity is RTG. Generally, solar panels are still effective at a distance from the Sun, about twice more than to Mars. They are, for example, AMS Dawn (studying the dwarf planet Ceres located in the asteroid belt), Rosetta (studying the comet Churyumov — Gerasimenko) and Juno (sent to Jupiter).
While the machine will do only a few hard-coded Poitou.
Experiments are not conducted on the principle of "what's on our mind", the astronauts will also do what is required by the program research and rehearsed on the Ground.
Americans SCTO there shaytanat rocket dvigatelyami. plasma I think.
They have long existed. Not designed for output loads into orbit, only work in a vacuum.
But if we make a machine able to fully replace the human - what do we need?
In fact, the progress it is what. Space is the only area where human presence is considered to be steeper automation and remote control.
what is the moon half a century ago, if they are to orbit the earth without our media does not mogut? and if mogut, then quite a bit.
it can be assumed that the camera donated space for programs closer to the military model of the economy, they have so long before the first technological poking into space, so this assumption can be discarded. the country lives and prospers at the expense of intelligence resources to the fight. and about all the live\photo\testimonies\samples of lunar dust\soil – easily counterfeited.
legusor
what is the moon half a century ago, if they are to orbit the earth without our media does not mogut? and if mogut, then quite a bit.
Read this topic. It's all been said.
all sorts of live\photo\testimonies\samples of lunar dust\soil – easily counterfeited.
There is no evidence of fraud.
I guess I won't.
BUT there is an interesting photo which is shot as they flew to the moon, this is so?
One question for the defenders of the official version - where the lunar soil is gone, which delivered astronauts to the Earth, assembled for the number of visits to the moon? As many as 378 pounds.
The only fact of the sale at auction is 0.2 grams of moon dust, taken by the Soviet probe in 1970, for 442,5 thousand dollars.
That kartinochka pleased at the time. Called Everything you need to know about the first Americans landing on the moon
scratchj
Neal had 2 pairs of shoes. The one for the moon was with thick soles.
scratchj
About the lunar soil you wrote is a pure lie. Educate: http://www.collectspace.com/resources/moonrocks_goodwill.html
scratchj
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/0/9/0/5888090.jpg
And here lunar botinki.
The camera is strapped to the belly of the astronauts ' Hasselblad 500, with external cassette, 1 cassette of 12 shots.
Irving made it 299 shots for a few hours on the moon. Many times skeptics asked at least on the Ground to demonstrate a miracle replacement cassette, pockets of space where he kept the tapes, just to take pictures with the horizon not inundated with a camera without a viewfinder on the chest. Besides, when you replace the color film you had to adjust the sharpness and aperture.
And that this data is not useful to study the same moon or in the construction and accommodation bases on it? Or 380 000 to several million as it is different from the point of view of the crews?
But what I remember most is the Sputnik or Gagarin?
Exactly. But it turned out that Newtonian is a small part and a special case. if the same thing suddenly be true for the Einstein?
how the hell crater has become a testing ground, not a place to study?
and the crater has a depth of 100 meters for example. And the man can increase the length of the drill and the Rover?
And so the ship with people going more and will incur more oborudovaniya.
What solar panels can't break at all? And Yes, solar panels have become more efficient.
Generally carried out. Because it's not provided on the Ground. And if there's any chance to check anything outside the program of studies satisfied.
And that, to get the ship from the Earth to the present missile and overload in the interplanetary - religion does not allow? not remembering the costs of course.
Committed committed but not yet built. Aznachit have human crews.
Tokrem
Cassette outside. I do not see the difficulty to change it. And bring proof that one tape breaks 12 shots. And the pockets are visible here: http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/0/9/0/5888090.jpg
kile[Natural sick all over the country one such]
The total number of minutes on the moon — 4834 minutes.
The total number of photos taken — 5771 photos.
Again, from the demonstration of the replacement cassette in the suit and gloves, the same buzz Aldrin and NASA refuses, what is the problem demonstrating?
Well, actually the proof on tape normal version
the Hasselblad came with a 12-shot magazine for 120 film. A 16-shot magazine for 6×4.5 was also available
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hasselblad_500_C/M
Tokrem
The total number of minutes on the moon — 4834 minutes.
The total number of photos taken — 5771 photos
Did you get this information from here: http://bigphils.livejournal.com/26623.html
There is a funny line
So, I had to estimate the actual number of photographs taken by astronauts DURING EXTRAVEHICULAR ACTIVITY (EVA) — time spent on the surface, outside LAM.
That is some kind of conspiracy counted several thousand photos manually? Funny. It is strange that in their calculations why is it considered the photos made in space.
Again, from the demonstration of the replacement cassette in the suit and gloves, the same buzz Aldrin and NASA refuses, what is the problem demonstrating?
Because no one takes the conspiracy theorists seriously. Do you think that buzz Aldrin will travel to NASA pulled the suit would get the camera and all this for the sake of fucking conspiracy? Yes, they got so much that he hit one of them when he is too out of line.
kile[Natural sick all over the country one such]
All photos from all Apollo posted NASA made just for the Hasselblad, not so difficult to calculate as you might think.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/
This is to make a problematic. The famous cassette 2 from Apollo 14, show images of any photographer and tell him that it took blindly with the camera on the belly, without adjustments.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?66