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AiSPQR 11.11.21 04:56 pm

Why is Russia so happy about the situation with refugees in Europe?

and who are you? well, probably at least a creative and original personality, writing all sorts of highly cultured blobs. oh sorry, but you're a schoolboy, well, it happens, it's age. at the age of 15 it is always like that, it seems that you understand everything better than anyone, and you see everything with an exceptional, not clouded look. Believe me, you are the same as everyone else, you are the same cattle.
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Dr_Drift_RU 11.11.21

stalker7162534, the fact is that Assad is a defending minority in his own country, sponsoring his killers is not a rewarding thing, whatever you look at it. I think that sounds logical. With regards to earnings, I think that they are not united by one oil.
Then, speaking of coups, I meant not only ISIS and not only our time.
The Russian Federation is not in a position to dictate its views to the EU or the West. At least at that time. In addition, the situation with refugees in the EU is similar to the suicide-throwing that has neighbors. Today I'm going to hit the bulldog with my fist. Tomorrow I'll go and lie down next to him. What can go wrong?

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A.Soldier of Light 11.11.21

This is not so much a joy as a laugh at the mistake for which the Europeans themselves are to blame. After all, who are the Europeans positioning themselves for? Stronghold of civilization, the smartest! But precisely because of their interference in the affairs of the Arab world, flows of refugees appeared. Gaddafi also warned about this and was absolutely right: the flow from Libya does not stop, there is a part of the coast under the control of ISIS and other groups. Just business. There are studies and articles on this topic, whoever needs it - will understand the causes and effects.

Serafim_94
Because this is really Russian propaganda. Europe has far fewer problems than our wonderful channels say.
Their local media speaks even less about the problems of Europe. Russia has no propaganda whatsoever. Propaganda means telling lies, lies about events. Where is it, tell me? At best, there will be a couple of separate moments where some presenter decided to embellish something, or a retelling of an unverified (and subsequently refuted) source. And so - basically, real events about the world. Specifically, the Russian media have a problem with covering events within Russia itself (not everyone says, censorship is purely European).

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Svyatoslav Izmailov 11.11.21

So what if my cow died, but my neighbor's two died!

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

Dr_Drift_RU
I meant not only ISIS and not only our time.

Understood nothing. Why is Europe being compared to suicide? Whom did she hit?

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
"Gaddafi warned about this"
Nonsense. Silly nonsense.

"It is precisely because of their interference in the affairs of the Arab world that the flows of refugees appeared
." Intervention in the civil war in Libya made it possible to end this war more quickly. If the war had lasted longer, would there have been fewer refugees? An uprising against the dictator took place in Syria. Religious fanatics in the wake of this uprising created a terrorist organization. And what have the Europeans got to do with it?

"Russia has no propaganda."
Facepalm. And who then hammered into your head nonsense and nonsense about the guilt of Europe?

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Dr_Drift_RU 11.11.21

stalker7162534, hit the Middle East, together with the West, which entailed anarchy and, as a result, tyranny. Nevertheless, in my opinion, you need not frail start-up capital and the help of an ally in order to capture an oil rig, defend it and be able to sell oil.
What does it mean? This means that there are a number of things that you cannot do without:
1. A fanatic is needed for dirty work;
2. The scapegoat as the guilty person.
3.Pragmatist for making money;
Thugs and comrade Sultan - Erdogan, at a glance, I don't know about the rest.

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A.Soldier of Light 11.11.21

Dr_Drift_RU
Everything about Erdogan is so clear: an hour of trial awaits a war criminal, he is harmful both for the world in Syria and for Turkey itself. Turkey's special services can also be disbanded, since they are seen in deals with ISIS. Same to me the defenders of the country ...

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

Dr_Drift_RU hit the
middle east, together with the west
And who is the west? When did she hit, and how?

A.Soldier of Light You are talking
nonsense again. Will there be facts?

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
Russia has no propaganda whatsoever.

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Dr_Drift_RU 11.11.21

A.Soldier of Light, I see Erdogan as a suitable candidate for judgment and punishment, because quite possibly a fanatic himself. Earnings. It is a very risky scheme for the one who runs the whole country on the territory of which the ancestors lived.
stalker7162534, the military invasion was in Libya and Iraq. The latter became the haven of Alqaida, whose descendant is ISIS. Unfortunately, I cannot but recall all kinds of popular unrest near our borders. Perhaps it is worth sending a neighboring military contingent closer to our borders, for peace of mind.
And then, you see, Daish will come to us. Sow death to reap democracy.
The West is the USA. Europe has something to do with it, tk. The United States is the backbone of NATO's military bloc, which includes almost all of Europe.
This one-sided communication is somewhat annoying. Questions are good when they have good answers. Apparently, only you can satisfactorily answer your questions.

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

Dr_Drift_RU
Libyan rebels were helped from the air. And not that much. As I already wrote, if the war in Libya lasted longer, would it be better?
The war against the dictator in Libya ended in 2011. Doesn't say anything on the issue of refugees? Where have they been for four years?
And when was Hussein defeated? in 2003. it took too long for the refugees to leave Iraq, if it was connected with the invasion of the Western coalition?
One-sided communication gets boring when, instead of conscious answers, you get only hints like - the West is to blame for everything, because the West is always to blame for everything.
Do you seriously think that there was such a world organization of terrorists Alqaida, and whose members subsequently changed their membership cards to new ones with the inscription ISIS? )))

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iKapusha 11.11.21

just as Europeans are happy that Russia has problems with the economy

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

living light
Have you interviewed all Europeans? Have you forgotten anyone?

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Mage Hermit 11.11.21

just as the Europeans are happy that there are problems with the economy in Russia



And the Europeans themselves do not know ...

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Tiger goose 11.11.21

stalker7162534

Have you interviewed all Europeans? Have you forgotten anyone?

I dare to suggest that you did not interview all the citizens of Russia.

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Mordok 11.11.21

stalker7162534
Do you seriously think that there was such a world organization of terrorists Alqaida, and whose members subsequently changed their membership cards to new ones with the inscription ISIS? )))
It is quite possible that this is exactly the case. These devils have a modular structure.
There is a pool in which independent small paramilitary cells and specialists swim. For carrying out terrorist attacks - some specialists, for partisans - others, for military operations - yet another. Larger organizations hire them for "work", and those - feed on their dough. Here is such a "military" symbiosis.
There are "ideological leaders" - those very employers (more precisely, employers of employers). They may well run from one camp to another in the role of authority for the masses.
And there are cattle. She flies with flags, rakes off her own and others, and firmly believes that everything is done for their sake.
Their names - like signs in a storage shed - have no semantic meaning, just so that you don't get confused in what tangerines are sold today.

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Dr_Drift_RU 11.11.21

stalker7162534, no hints. I see Europeans who yearn for peace and prosperity at any cost, and I see the West, which has been entrusted with the responsibility to provide all of this. Both sides want the same thing, not enough for everyone.
Bandits who are used to being bandits are unlikely to become shepherds and managers. If possible, they will find a job in a better, more promising way. And it's not about membership cards.
At the time of the Iraqi attack, the borders were operating as usual, the Turkish side was not porous. In other matters, Alkaida was more a news storm than a cancer on the body of most of the country.

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A.Soldier of Light 11.11.21

Refugees also become impudent when they see that the locals are giving up slack, letting them all the crimes (the police are inactive). A dangerous situation, because the patience of the people is not unlimited. This is primarily about Germany, but other EU countries do not like refugees either. They are guests and must obey the traditions of the local community, where they have entered for a while. In theory, it should be so, if not for the stupid internal policy in relation to outsiders.
Refugees On the topic of refugees, I can cite a clipping from the newspaper "Stolitsa" from Estonia, in Russian, of course))

Large snapshot of the page (click, then enlarge to full screen, etc., the snapshot is large, the text is visible):


Tiger Goose
I dare to assume that you are not interviewed all citizens of Russia.
I interviewed those who support Nemtsov's works - that's "all Russians" =]

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stalker7162534 11.11.21

Tiger Goose
And from my side there was no statement that all Russians.
A.Soldier of Light
You just have to throw dirt.

Dr_Drift_RU
At the time of the Iraqi attack
Spoiler "Despite the fact that the US spent almost $ 700 billion on the war in Iraq, all oil contracts were bought by other countries. This came as a surprise to many people, but America was almost the only country that did not benefit from Iraqi oil reserves. "
http://warnet.ws/news/Interesny_e_fakty__o_gaze_i_nefti_24_foto

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Tiger goose 11.11.21

stalker7162534

And on my part there was no statement that all Russians.

Living light also had no statements about all Europeans.

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"just like the Europeans are happy that there are problems with the economy in Russia."

This statement is identical in structure to the title of this topic:

Why is Russia so happy about the situation with refugees in Europe?