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-SK.art- 26.02.20 11:52 pm

Any questions on the selection of components v57

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Ryazancev 30.07.20

susbeatsan
In all cases you will not have the word dual. Not the level of the device. So put 16GB.

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Oasis777 30.07.20

Hi all. Help Board. Need an upgrade to a very expensive gaming computer.
The choice at the moment:
Processor - Ryzen 5 3600X
CPU cooler - Be Quiet Dark Rock 4
Mother ASUS PRIME X570-P
Memory 32Gb DDR4 3200MHz Kingston HyperX Fury - DO I NEED this MUCH MEMORY? Or limited to 16GB?
Memory DDR4 3200MHz 16Gb Kingston HyperX Fury

Moscow, the store where going to take - https://www.regard.ru

Optimal if the components? The graphics card will leave until the old - GTX980
THANK YOU FOR THE TIPS! Good luck and health in this difficult period.

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Mars_City 30.07.20

Oasis777
Percent, certainly not really, rest is ok. The acceleration is terrible. Memory can take 16gb, won't need to. Five years sure enough. If you want a map change, then take 2060 if you have money, then 2080super her for 4k for sure will last for many years. In fact, your 980-Oh now really enough (if not grafodrocher)

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Mars_City 30.07.20

Oasis777
And so, if that write in PM. Can you recommend a great comp for 4k with a cheap card.

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Palych Rokov 30.07.20

Oasis777 wrote:
Hi all. Help Board. Need an upgrade to a very expensive gaming computer.
The choice at the moment:
Processor - Ryzen 5 3600X
CPU cooler - Be Quiet Dark Rock 4
Mother ASUS PRIME X570-P
Memory 32Gb DDR4 3200MHz Kingston HyperX Fury - DO I NEED this MUCH MEMORY? Or limited to 16GB?
It is quite normal for toys and there is a possibility of replacement of PERC in the future, memory have 32GB and Reisen with a frequency higher, I'd look in the direction of the kits with 3800мгц albeit with low timings, it's expensive, but for critical Riesen

Oasis777 wrote:
The graphics card will leave until the old - GTX980
The video card needs to be changed in the first place if for games, even if you put all that has been written can in games not to feel, because you have emphasis everywhere in it

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Roman78rus 30.07.20

Good evening, afternoon, morning!!!))) View the Assembly particularly interested in compatibility percent with mother(so it was not necessary to alter BIOS) on a Budget of 50 000 t. R + -the comp plan for office tasks + jump films and their viewing and 11 years for the child to games (the second HDD is under filopovic is the case)
https://www.dns-shop.ru/custompc/configuration/ef15d46a83c5d66a/?withAssembly=0
PS: collect at the Petersburg prices)) Alex long delivery and not to offer))

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X_ray_83 30.07.20

Roman78rus
All the rules but at least used HDD 2 Tr to give scorotron )))

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zirack 30.07.20

Roman78rus wrote:
so there was no need to alter the BIOS
Naive Finnish guy. )
Percent of 2018, Mat.fee 2018, 2019 video card, the BIOS will have anything to flash.
Cooler is better to take simple, then this morning the lad faced with these chicken legs and a 70 degree on the percent. Itself such never took, the tenth party to bypass them, but just in case take better normal, classic. )

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OkGo 30.07.20

Roman78rus
Comments given the fact that all components in CSN are selected.
1) RAM is better replaced by something initially support 3200.
Спойлерhttps://www.dns-shop.ru/product/5762c1c346fc1b80/operativnaa-pamat-patriot-viper-4-steel-pvs416g320c6k-16-gb/
2) BP is controversial. Like desman, MB, some of the guys on the forum know that there is a platform inside. In any case, to save on the PSU just not worth it.
3) Skimp on the motherboard - is himself. It is better to take the b450 and standard ATX format.
4) Monitor for 6.5-7K you can find with IPS-matrix.

Seriously, it is better to take not in DNS, for overpayment decent. Peter has plenty of other options.

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Roman78rus 30.07.20

Thank you for the tips will look, will think but o4en are limited in the budget(((
The computer needs more for multimedia and not much for games, child))
We watch, we think))

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MunchkiN 616 27.09.20

I3 2000-7000 series!
It appears to be a 7hh m-ath fully stuffed with 16gb of frames and 1060gth and 256gb under Windows and a 256g
actually a normal training bake and in almost all games in the fulke something like 30 phps. quite so for the average schoolboy

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SUSUL1 27.09.20

MunchkiN 616
yes, and for an office worker!
But he will receive these 30 FPS only if there is no music from the contact to listen to!
But techno "obscenely" advised these processors as gaming!
I read how much on the Forum gigabytes, when i3 adepts shit me the topic about FX-8320, they say I am underdeveloped, take FX when there is an i3 which gives a cool FPS in games ... And so I get
this i3, I hang on it an old iron that was on FX-8320"50 and see... I see it's just a heavy thrash, a typewriter or a mulimied player, but not all together. how should a "home computer" be able to do!
And here I immediately crept the question, and why no one tests processors and games with background processes?! Torrnet, antivirus, browser?
So that people can see what awaits them in reality, not on a clean "freshly installed" wind

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MunchkiN 616 27.09.20

SUSUL1
So the comp for the igor should be a comp for the igor first. well so if there are many factors affecting performance tests will be noisy and will be a bunch. on the performance of the laptop mg to say that the performance of the tp 2 (4 flow processor) slightly affects the tdc I have so much about 3-5% but that's all about the memory ... 14-16 GB of 30 swap files is a browser that inhibits both the Brazur itself and everything else and the memory is all clogged. if you go to the applications then here in a blender 3D and all that will strongly elastic everything in the processor. torrents and antiviruses think not everyone uses a peck and during games they think prudently turn off and again aki most likely it is more about memory and file swap will be.

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Lex-one 27.09.20

SUSUL1
When the multi-stream games went, everything fell into place, it's been since 2015 for sure.
And if you're going to get the fufik right, he's got cancer and i5.
Those who advised the i3 have long been in the landfill.

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Makar_AS8 27.09.20

How long will the 2700s and 1080s last? I plan to update the iron before the release of the cyberpunk, so I have confidence that my PC from 1600 and 1066 is not long in technical terms

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Makar_AS8 27.09.20

VOVAN WOLFovich
I still have 1066 and thought to take 1080, but now, I'm thinking about taking 2070 and the magaz 2700s for streams. The chipset will change when there will be a type of memory ddr5 (at the very moment B350 chipset, memory without acceleration), and there look and 4000 risenovets will take. To take 3000 series of visions at the start it is possible to get on the sores of the first games and similar shit.

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VOVAN WOLFovich 27.09.20

Makar_AS8
I thought you'd have two PCs, like mine, one 2700,1080, the other 1600,1066. For streams and games 3600 better. Well the B350 already 4000 series does not support officially. I think with 3600, and better 3700 X (you can sit up to DDR5, but there and AM5 will) to several times not to change. Secondary norms, there are a lot of them now and the offer is good to pick up. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel
"3600 is the best choice for streamers who plan to edit and render the footage."
2700H vs 3600 q Stream
Yes, you need at least a month to sit and wait, ideally two for new species, when the warehouse is filled and prices will return to normal, well, and there will be reviews, reviews of norms.
I don't see the point in the chipnet account to bother, it is better to invest the same funds in 3700Hs, if necessary, of course. It will work on the B350.

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ShARIKOV POLIGRAF POLIGRA 27.09.20

Please give an opinion on my build (preliminary course) a lot of read info reviews and etc. but want and the opinions of people to find out .



Hull took such -DEEPCOOL MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 3F
Viduha for now will be the old 1060 -6GB hopefully soon the 3000s will be at less adequate prices.
What can be replaced and why I ask your opinions- such as bp and cooler matter

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VOVAN WOLFovich 27.09.20

SHARIKOV POLYGRAPH
Spoiler is not so much to delve into going, but I'll ask, why intel, not amd? What's the comp for?
BOX version 10600k darling. Ask 10600KF BOX or OEM (looked, the price difference is negligible).
BP less gold today to take is not a good idea. SP11
Cool for him just plug, especially if you want to get the best numbers of acceleration. It's the same 8700k, just with a solder. 4800 there can be obtained with safe values. Cool chase, where 4800 exactly with comfortable get. I'd look at least 180-220 watts, at least something like that: https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/aeea3ad07dd03330/kuler-dla-processora-be-quiet-dark-rock-4-bk021/characteristics/ or https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/7190de04e3933330/kuler-dla-processora-scythe-mugen-5-revb-scmg-5100/opinion/, or maybe older brother https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/d57d39787dd23330/kuler-dla-processora-be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-bk022/
MSI, among them only Tomahawk is the best. Then only Asus Stricks. The rest is at your risk.
RAM oak, just horror. With intel is not the best combination. It is worth to achieve the indicators 3600-4000 with timings C16 - C19. You're 16th at 3200.
Why 1Tb SSD? Why not HDD, for that money I took 2Tb 7200 WD RE.
SSD under the system, my recommendation is https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/d5fc9da4bcc93332/250-gb-ssd-m2-nakopitel-kingston-a2000-sa2000m8250g/characteristics/.
P.S. Reviews don't solve it, nor do reviews. Looking at them, I realized that they all "recommend" and speak flatteringly about the goods. And it doesn't matter, good or bad, written under a copy. Read the comments on the reviews and see for yourself on the components. In general, I decided to overpay for a good mother's fee.
By the way, this MSI doesn't have 12 phases, if anything. The RT3609BE (6/1) phase is like that of the MSI MAG B460M. For some reason, two phases are allocated to VCC IO/SA. MOSFETs ONSemi 4C029N (46 Amper) and 4C024N (78 Amper).
FROM THE WORLD with U4 sepping, there are crackdown records put on the intel better results will be.https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/3d71420a5c3b3332/operativnaa-pamat-crucial-ballistix-black-bl2k8g30c15u4b-16-gb/opinion/
With it, the 3600 C16 is easy.

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ArktFaint 27.09.20

SHARIKOV POLYGRAPH POLYGRAPHITCH WROTE:
DEEPCOOL MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 3F
This coffin is unblown, swap for matrexx 50 mesh q arctici P or F for 3 pina.
And so on assembling for this stone some deepcool neptwin v2 is better to take for example, memory baliki u4 3000 cl15, 3200 cl16, or suddenly where you find old aes with such frequency and cl, similar to e-die chips, these hyperixes have random on chips, more often it is the most wooden hynix, alternative, something on chips hynix DJR (main 2 dice, poop singles or duels 2x8/216)
BP is enough sp9 for 600, 500 is another stuffing to my knowledge, or you can chiftronic at 550w look if it is still sold.