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-SK.art- 26.02.20 11:52 pm

Any questions on the selection of components v57

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Ryazancev 25.10.20

MoHcTpitsky
Don't waste extra "shakes." Yes, percent.
TE gain will be, but it is a kind of Homeopathy.

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heavik 19.11.20

1. Budget
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru
3. We specify what tasks the PC upgrade is done for:
3.1. Games (2560x1440x144MHz, second 1920x1080x144MHz)
3.2. Work (Photoshop, Premier)
4. Processor and mate. Fee..
5. Crackdown - Possibly, but not a fact
6. Whether you plan to upgrade the system in the future - perhaps RAM, and on the need, in the plans of the year 2-3 do not burrow much.
7. No.

Available:
1. Hull: Fractal Desing Define R5
2. Kuller: Noctua NH-D15S (2017)
3. BP: Corsair RM-750X
4. RAM: Corsair 2x8GB 3200MHz C16
5. M2: XPG SX8200 Pro – 1TB
6. VGA: ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 TUF O8G. 8192 MB GDDR6

The question is:
a) Take on Intel
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700-2-9ghz-16mb-box/8hg8?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700f-2-9ghz-16mb-box/8lwg?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700kf-3-8ghz-16mb-bx8070110700kf/8r4s?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
4. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700k-limited-avengers-edition-bx8070110700ka/9393?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode

On the mainland:
1. https://www.1a.lt/p/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus-wi-fi/8g7d?cat=2ve&index=23
2. https://www.1a.lt/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-carbon-wifi/8g73?cat=2ve&index=22
3. https://www.1a.lt/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-edge-wifi/8g7r?cat=2ve&index=14
4. https://www.1a.lt/p/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus/8g79?cat=2ve&index=4
5. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-plus/8ghc?cat=2ve&index=24
6. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asrock-z490-extreme4/8g6i?cat=2ve&index=33
Under 10700f for example such?! The only question they memory will be held ?
7. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-prime-b460-plus/8is6?cat=2ve&index=12
8. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-gaming-b460-pro-wi-fi/8ib5?cat=2ve&index=13

b) AMD Ryzen:
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-3-6ghz-32mb-am4-box-100-100000071box/5rjo?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-3-9ghz-32mb-am4-box-100-100000025box/5w5q?mtd=search-popup&pos=autocoplete&src=searchnode
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-3-8ghz-64mb-am4-box-100-100000023box/634y?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode

On the mainland:
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus/5rym?cat=2ve&index=11
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-b450-plus-gaming/bwq?cat=2ve&index=28
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi/5tb5?cat=2ve&index=36

With AMD for a long time did not use, the mother so, on the throw took, x570 probably have a chance under the new processor to guess, but according to experience, the fastest in the future will change in the collection mom - percent, generally help, and then I have already broken a little head.

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heavik 19.11.20

1. Budget
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru
3. We specify what tasks the PC upgrade is done for:
3.1. Games (2560x1440x144MHz, second 1920x1080x144MHz)
3.2. Work (Photoshop, Premier)
4. Processor and mate. Fee..
5. Crackdown - Possibly, but not a fact
6. Whether you plan to upgrade the system in the future - perhaps RAM, and on the need, in the plans of the year 2-3 do not burrow much.
7. No.

Available:
1. Hull: Fractal Desing Define R5
2. Kuller: Noctua NH-D15S (2017)
3. BP: Corsair RM-750X
4. RAM: Corsair 2x8GB 3200MHz C16
5. M2: XPG SX8200 Pro – 1TB
6. VGA: ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 TUF O8G. 8192 MB GDDR6

The question is:
a) Take on Intel
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700-2-9ghz-16mb-box/8hg8?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700f-2-9ghz-16mb-box/8lwg?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700kf-3-8ghz-16mb-bx8070110700kf/8r4s?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
4. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/intel-core-i7-10700k-limited-avengers-edition-bx8070110700ka/9393?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode

On the mainland:
1. https://www.1a.lt/p/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus-wi-fi/8g7d?cat=2ve&index=23
2. https://www.1a.lt/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-carbon-wifi/8g73?cat=2ve&index=22
3. https://www.1a.lt/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-edge-wifi/8g7r?cat=2ve&index=14
4. https://www.1a.lt/p/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus/8g79?cat=2ve&index=4
5. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-plus/8ghc?cat=2ve&index=24
6. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asrock-z490-extreme4/8g6i?cat=2ve&index=33
Under 10700f for example such?! The only question they memory will be held ?
7. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-prime-b460-plus/8is6?cat=2ve&index=12
8. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-gaming-b460-pro-wi-fi/8ib5?cat=2ve&index=13

b) AMD Ryzen:
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-3-6ghz-32mb-am4-box-100-100000071box/5rjo?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-3-9ghz-32mb-am4-box-100-100000025box/5w5q?mtd=search-popup&pos=autocoplete&src=searchnode
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-3-8ghz-64mb-am4-box-100-100000023box/634y?mtd=search&pos=regular&src=searchnode

On the mainland:
1. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus/5rym?cat=2ve&index=11
2. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-b450-plus-gaming/bwq?cat=2ve&index=28
3. https://www.1a.lt/ru/p/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi/5tb5?cat=2ve&index=36

With AMD for a long time did not use, the mother so, on the throw took, x570 probably have a chance under the new processor to guess, but according to experience, the fastest in the future will change in the collection mom - percent, generally help, and then I have already broken a little head.

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katyazhdanovaa 02.12.20

How long will the 2700s and 1080s last?

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bloomm 02.12.20

katyazhdanovaa
A shaken ball of wisdom, the ball of wisdom says, depending on the developer's optimizations.

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legusor 02.12.20

katyazhdanovaa
will be relevant until you buy yourself something more productive.
if for toys - then 2700x - a piece of feces since its release, and Gtx 1080ti can be milked for another three years in 1920s1080.

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OkGo 02.12.20

legusor
By the way, 1080ti is still enough in the resolution 3440x1440.
It is clear that in the current projects the settings have to be reduced from the ultras. But on the High/Ultra mix, the same Metro Exodus quite calmly passed.

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MunchkiN 616 02.12.20

katyazhdanovaa
looking at what to understand by relevance
To run games on ultra 30fts 2700s without a crackdown will be able to maybe a year 3 can more.
The 1080p graphics card on the most ultras can still year-year and a half somewhere as such.
physical start-up at the processor - it is thought to end until about the end of the cycle of non-xtgen.
the graphics card can take 3-4 years but not a fact. it depends on whether the games will use the latest version of dh12 as a mandatory and whether nv will maintain their cards drivers for so long (1080ti does not have a full-fledged acceleration dhr).

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X_ray_83 02.12.20

legusor
the 2700s have been a piece of feces since its release
Posted by the owner of the i9-7900X which is not exactly for gaming and shows low phps in them !

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Lex-one 02.12.20

OkGo wrote:
Metro Exodus
She's two months old in a couple of months.

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OkGo 02.12.20

Lex-one
Time flies...

Well, the message is clear. 1080ti still pulls demanding games. It is clear that you can not even look at the ultras and rays, but still. If you reduce secondary settings, you can live and 2k and a little higher.

In a good way, I would move to THE RTX 30xx, but the prices are quite sad.

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Dragon Lore 02.12.20

OkGo
I mean sad?
OkGo wrote:
on the RTX 30xx, but the prices are quite sad
THE RTX 3090 costs 150K pyblik. It's like even for our Muhosransk is not very much.

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X_ray_83 02.12.20

Dragon Lore
3090 24gb is not for games only memory great everything else is not far gone from 3080 ! The point in overpaying is generally incomprehensible 10-20% for $700 nonsense.
3080 generally snaps at 10gb of memory while the competitor has 16-12 gigs in general funny.

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Dragon Lore 02.12.20

X_ray_83
X_ray_83 wrote:
3080 in general snap at 10gb of memory while the competitor has 16-12 gigs in general funny
If I understood it correctly, the competitor said that it would support all ray tracing options using industry standards, including the Microsoft DXR API and the upcoming Vulkan raytracing API. Games that use proprietary APIs and ray tracing extensions are not supported
That is, the Nvidia RTX technology already implemented in a number of games will not be supported by AMD 6000 series graphics cards, as I understand it. I don't see the point in buying this snap.
X_ray_83 wrote:
The point in overpaying is generally incomprehensible 10-20% for $700 nonsense.
Well, maybe someone $700 a substantial amount, I don't argue. Not for me.

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X_ray_83 02.12.20

Dragon Lore
Nvidia RTX's range of games technology supported by AMD 6000 series graphics cards will not
There are only two of them. About a turkey type Ghostrunner do not know there is no interest in this technology in view of weak graphics .
Exactly will be in Cyberpunk on Rx6800 only later and so nothing so graphic in fact is not !
Now works in Control,WatchDogs, Tomb Raider,Call of Duty,Dirt5,GodFall this is enough for a start.
$700 is a substantial sum, I don't argue. Not for me.
It's not about the sum, it's about teaching "performance for $" as Americans say! 20% increase is very small at this size and price I am already silent about TDP.

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Dragon Lore 02.12.20

X_ray_83
X_ray_83 wrote:
It's not about the sum, it's about teaching "performance for $"
Well, it's like. People have different approaches and different price bar. I'm not going to regret even the 5% purely nominal difference, paying for another marketing move. If there is an opportunity and there is a desire, why not? At the end of the day, we live one life, saving on little quirks :D

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katyazhdanovaa 02.12.20

bloomm
your balls of wisdom are not very

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Nikolay Lomantsov 18.12.20

Hello everyone, tell me who knows, I have three strips of RAM Ddr 3 x 4 gigabytes, but they have a frequency of 800mg, if you put the memory at a higher frequency, will there be a difference or does it make no sense on my hardware?
Comp
Proc Fx 8320
Vidyuha Puls Rx 580 8gb

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Ryazancev 18.12.20

Nikolay Lomantsov
Recommended memory for Ficus with a frequency of 1866! As I understand it, 800 is effective, and the bars are 1600 MHz.
In general, Ficuses respond very well to high frequencies, but coupled with a high CPU NB frequency. Ideal for Ficus is CPU NB 2600 (or higher) + DDR3 2400.
FPS especially minimal boost is not sickly.
I repeat, 1866 is enough for a stock stone from memory. Then the controller must also drive the CPU NB.
Be ready to divert the increased heat consumption from the CPU

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Nikolay Lomantsov 18.12.20

Ryazancev
It is necessary to take a normal cooler for a percentage in addition, right? And what do you think, if I change my three strips of 4 to one with a frequency of 1600, is it worth it? And even mine does not give more than 800 in the BIOS.