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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20 06:08 am

Small upgrade

Hello. Such a situation is that there is a computer with the following parameters Athlon x4 640, Radeon hd 5670 512mb, 4gb ram, and a power supply like 450, or. 550.
I will need to spend about half a year on it, and I would like to play something) completely upgrade, there is no way to spend money now. And here's the question: if I just change the video card, for some Bu, costing 50-60 dollars, (GeForce gt 640, Radeon 6670), can I play the latest games, and games of 15.14 years, at least at low ones, medium settings, hd resolution, but no lags, at least 30 - 40 FPS?
Or the processor will not pull everything smoothly, and there is no point in changing the video card?
Now, for example, dying light, at minimum settings, in hd resolution, is played with brakes. I think about 20 - 26 fps.
Thank you
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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

On the contrary, I am interested in overclocking, without raising the voltage. The main thing is that there would be no additional load on the power supply unit, and the box cooler coped with it.
I also read that I can get lucky with Ahtlon640, and you can open 2 more cores. Become a Hair Dryer x6. Or the L3 cache can be opened To do this, you need to look at the markings on the process. But there is thermal paste, I can't look, there is no thermal paste to apply later.
Maybe you should try to unlock? I can't break something by accident?)

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Sanchez ramirez 23.12.20

Amazing. In less than a month, a man who didn't even know how to calculate power became an overclocker and iron guru. Bravo!

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

1.Does your motherboard model (in BIOS) have - Advanced Clock Calibration?
You can view the core of the processor using the CPU-Z program.

In Propus * ah it is impossible to open the cache of lvl 3 and +2 cores. The maximum air safe overclocking is up to 3.5 GHz with 1.45 cores.
Deneb - unlock only 3L cache without cores.
And only in Thuban - there is a full unlock for Athlone 640 (but there were very, very few of them).
I'm 99.9% sure that you have Propus.

And vidyahu it would be better to take a GTX 750 TI (2 GB).

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Sanchez Ramirez
Come on, stop mocking)
I still can't calculate the power of bp. And as I understand it, special devices are needed for this.
And overclocking the core or unlock cores, it seems not difficult. It is enough to do everything according to the instructions.
Vasek Vasekk
It seems like the mother allows you to grab and unlock.
Yes, I read about these crystals or cores, so it became interesting to see the marking of the chip. I'll look through CPU-Z.
1.45. tension, is it the initial tension?
yes, GTX 750 TI (2 GB) is better, and 950 gtx is even better)
but this was all beyond my budget, and did not fit my power supply )

And yes, unfortunately Propus)) the
voltage writes 1.328

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
1.45. tension, is it the initial tension?
This is the maximum allowable for 640. for normal operation without degradation.
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950 FURNACE is better - but it will work at 65% on this process. Even a 750 TI will work at a maximum of 85% and that which is overclocked to 3.5 GHz.
750 Ti - only 60 W power consumption

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Vasek Vasekk
ok, at 750, but over budget! So I didn't even look at the power consumption. And he himself wrote that my percent will not reveal this card.

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Will not reveal it does not mean that there will be no more fps - than 7700.
When they write that there is an emphasis in percent - this is the ceiling value, the vidyakha can, but the percent does not let it go further ..

For example, we have the same game settings - on i core 7 5 GHz - 750 Ti will produce 100 fps - 70 fps on your process.
And 7700 - which will fully reveal your percentage - will have 40 fps.

Much depends on the engine of the game; in one there is a lack of processor, in the other not very noticeable.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Vasek Vasekk
Yes, I know all this, and I understand. Once again, the 750ti is just over budget. therefore I did not even look towards this map. I was planning a very small upgrade.
And yes, I know that games are now trying to make them more dependent on gpu, not cpu. Of the latter, probably The Crew is very dependent on the processor, and even with a cool video there will be a weak FPS.
7770 good price-quality-power ratio, that's why I chose this card

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
AMD's problem is that they quickly score on their old model lines.
Take the same HD 6870 with Dx 11 - fresh firewood has not been produced for it for a long time. Some kind of beta build was released at the beginning of the year and that's all. You can still shout on such a card.
Nvidia even on the GTS 430 - and to this day releases drivers.

It will be a shame when after 3-4 months after downloading new firewood you will not find the 7xxx series, but only the R-series.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

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n't know Vasek Vasekk , it seems that even my former 5670 card, which is very old, had 2016 drivers.
And besides, I didn't buy 7770 until the end of my life))) I think, for half a year, a maximum of a year is enough for me. then either ps4 or full pc upgrade

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Latest driver for ... 5xxx 6xxx series - Crimson Edition Beta 313 MB released Crimson Edition 16.2.1 Beta
1/1/2016
And this is what it says - HD 6000 Series, and Radeon â„¢ HD 5000 Series Graphics products have been moved to a legacy support model and no additional driver releases are planned.
After downloading a new game from the owner of the same HD 6870, there will be no optimization, and some games may not start at all.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Vasek Vasekk
I think you are exaggerating a little) On the same 5670 I ran the last couple of games, and it worked ok. Of course with a small FPS, but ok.
Well, do the 7770 still support it?) I think that's enough for me)
From Nvidia's analogs, I could take the gtx 650, or even the gtx650 TI at a good price.
but the Gtx 650 seems to be weaker than the 7770, and the gtx 650 ti eats 110 watts.

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Vasek Vasekk 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
I'm not exaggerating, but I admit it according to Murphy's law.

Conditional Battlefield 1 - will require a new driver, since there will be some new feature and everyone will crow.
There were 3 games in my memory - where it was necessary to update - otherwise there was a sign that would not let it go anywhere. It was not up to the extra +5 FPS and the game did not start at all.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Vasek Vasekk
I also had this, somewhere in the 2000s)
I do not think that I will have serious problems launching games within the next year, or half a year. I mean launch.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Well, the card came, put it in a test. In general, everything is ok)
so far only tried Dying light. Playable at 1920 resolution and medium settings. Fps 30 - 40. In especially difficult places, where there is a lot of fire and foliage, it can drop to 25. I think if you lower some settings a little, 35 will be stable.
And so, 30 - 40, sometimes it rises to 50.
Overall I'm glad. The power supply unit seems to have pulled, does not stink, does not burn) I hope that it will continue to do so) a
little later I will test Assassin's Creed Syndicate. More voracious game. The 7770 was pretty quiet. My old 5670 hummed like a tractor, I thought it was the norm) 7770 is much quieter. I played for about 10 minutes, the temperature was about 62.
Total upgrade is 56 bucks. Now athlon 640 x4, 8 gb ram, gigabyte 7770 1gb.
Thank you all for your help. I hope that the system will continue to work well, and nothing will happen to the power supply)

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TwinFrozr 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik How much did you buy the vidyahu (and what was the price for the other 7770s you were looking at?) And the memory and how much did you sell your old vidyahu? And how to overclock the percentage I wrote to you above, you do not need to raise the voltage on it, it will work at 3.5 GHz without any problems and without raising the voltage, and a boxed cooler can cope with such overclocking.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Well, I bought a vidyahu somewhere for $ 68. It was cheaper, about 64-60 bucks. but the sellers had a lot of vidyuh, and as I understood this is a repair office. did not take from them. I took it from a person, vidyuhe for a year and a half, it seems there is even a guarantee. I sold mine for $ 22. I took a chance on the memory, took it only for AMD for 10 bucks.
Assassin Creed Syndicate is of course not so smooth)) the resolution is 1280, and everything is for mines, and there are FPS drawdowns in some places) I
'm afraid to drive a little percent. But I'll try, because in games the percentage is loaded almost 100%

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TwinFrozr 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik Overclocking the processor is absolutely nothing if you do not raise the voltage, the maximum that can happen is that the computer does not start if you wind up the wrong settings in the BIOS, and to reset all BIOS settings, you just need to find the KMOS jumper on the motherboard http: // fotki. ykt.ru/albums/userpics/15650/006_jumper1.jpg usually it is located near the battery and stands on the first and second contacts, and you will need to rearrange for 1-2 seconds on the second and third and immediately return to its original position on the first or second contact and after that all BIOS settings will be reset to standard values. How exactly to overclock I wrote to you above http://forums.playground.ru/hardware/nebolshoj_apgrejd-909083/#comment-15181984 Did you sell it for 550 UAH? It could well have been sold for UAH 750 http: // olx. ua / elektronika / kompyutery / komplektuyuschie / q-5670 / By the way, your overclocked percent will completely pull the new video cards of the GeForce 950 level or the newest Radeon RX 460 which comes out on August 8, so you won't need to change anything in your computer in a year if you buy one of these views, since your computer is quite balanced and on these vidyahs you can easily play new games for 2-3 years at medium-high settings. So in a year, when you get rich, you don't have to change the whole computer at all, but just buy one of the views I have proposed and your computer will become quite a gaming computer for the next 2-3 years, just take it for 2 GB, since four gigs are like the hare's fifth leg, and for example, if you want a vidyahu more powerful than I suggested to you, then the best option would be GeForce 1050 (TI) 3 GB, it will be released somewhere in 3-4 months and when you buy it, the prices for it will just settle down. But still the most balanced in terms of price will be the GeForce 950 or Radeon RX 460 2 GB. And I do not recommend buying a PS4 at all, since the prices for games are simply space http://soft.rozetka.com.ua/games/c80066/filter/platform=ps4;sort=expensive/ Toys on PS4 at a price comparable to the price of the Radeon 7770 is it doesn't matter at all, the only case in which it is justified to buy is if the PS4 is hacked by that time.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

TwinFrozr
My card was unrealistic to sell for 750) the ad hung for almost a month) even for 650 no one wanted. I'll try to drive it. I hope you're right about "nothing threatens")
I'm just more comfortable playing on a large plasma, sitting on the sofa)
So I'm thinking about ps4. I hope they will be hacked by that time, well, there is a Brazilian method for extreme. I thought if the computer was upgraded, then it would also be connected to the plasma ... But I read that there still needs to be ground something, there is a risk that the vidyuha will burn out, or the input on the TV set, or the TV set. In general - a little crap. I still bought the console and play)
Well, I'll think about it later) I

reread your post on overclocking the processor. It's not that simple and clear)
I just thought that this percent has been working for me for 5 years, maybe more. If I overclock, won't it shorten the life of the process?)
And probably, the thermal paste needs to be bought, smeared on this occasion)

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TwinFrozr 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik Well, here they told you Krylov's fables and Pushkin's tales that your power supply unit will not pull 7770 or burn out, and how long did I have to convince you to take 7770, not 7750, so who was I right or those who shouted that you have a Chinese power supply trash? So about the percentages I already told you above that nothing will not burn if you do not pick up a lot of voltage, I did not touch it at all during overclocking and it plows at 3.5 GHz without problems. And about the grounding, you also piled nonsense, because grounding is desirable equally for PS4 and for a PC, but not necessarily (PS4 is essentially the same PC only with a different operating system) The Brazilian method by the way does not seem to work on new firmware versions starting with 2.51